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Homophobic murder in Clapham Common
BillieTheBot
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4346442.stm
Horrible story :no:
It's amazing that in the 21st century there are still such ignorant bigoted sub-human cunts :mad:
Horrible story :no:
It's amazing that in the 21st century there are still such ignorant bigoted sub-human cunts :mad:
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Anyway, a grim attack, almost more so because they didnt use weapons.
I have to wonder if this is just part of the fall-out of the who Lawrence Inquiry. We should remember that "just because" the victim is gay/black, it doesn't mean that this was the motive...
That said, if it was the motive in this case then we should truly be ashamed of the people which our society breeds...
At the very least he was at a wooded area known and used by gay men for sexual encounters. You don't have any reason to be in that area unless you're going there. Even if someone just wanted to cross the common you would choose the asphalted and clear pathway found nearby, not the woods. I passed by with my bike only this morning. It is still cordoned off with police crime tape and you can see the forensics tent where presumably the body was found.
Chances are the two knuckle-draggers in question were there waiting a for a victim to show up, or had arranged to meet on the internet.
We really must be careful not to label crime in such a way. Put it this way, if I was killed by a gay black guy would the police (or you) automatically assume it was race related, or hetrophobia? Of course not - although I do note that the incidence of hetrophobia a non existant, but you get the point.
Whilst I agree that homophobia shouldn't be ignored, it also shouldn't be the first assumption. Discrimination comes in many forms...
Explains it better... stil, although one section is labelled "homophobic insults" there still isn't anything there which touches on this...
A homophobic attack seems the most likely, though one hopes that any investigation will cover all angles.
Whether homophobic or not I hope they catch the bastards who did it and they spend the forseeable future slopping out.
It's a mute argument though. European Human Rights legislation also outlaws it regardless of any national laws.
BTW When you can prove that the death sentence is a deterent, let's talk about it further...
You have such faith in the British public.
I suspect that the British people would happily not only bring back hanging, but criminal punishments which would make a Saudi fundamentalist blush.
Sure, it's easy for a tabloid make a poll in the aftermath of, say, Soham, ask the right questions (and to the right people) and obtain the result they want. I still believe if there were to be genuine political debate followed by a national referemdum the public would do the right thing.
Kermit would kill a jay walker, I'll give you that.
Your first response is incredibly angry (sub-human?, knuckle-draggers?) but then you go to 'evil paedo' S*n bashing and defencing the absense of the death penalty.......
And no, I don't support the death penalty. Not even for paedophiles or homophobes who murder their victims.
Sir Humphrey: "You know what happens: nice young lady comes up to you. Obviously you want to create a good impression, you don't want to look a fool, do you? So she starts asking you some questions: Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the number of young people without jobs?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Are you worried about the rise in crime among teenagers?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Do you think there is a lack of discipline in our Comprehensive schools?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Do you think young people welcome some authority and leadership in their lives?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Do you think they respond to a challenge?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Would you be in favour of reintroducing National Service?"
Bernard Woolley: "Oh...well, I suppose I might be."
Sir Humphrey: "Yes or no?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Of course you would, Bernard. After all you told you can't say no to that. So they don't mention the first five questions and they publish the last one."
Bernard Woolley: "Is that really what they do?"
Sir Humphrey: "Well, not the reputable ones no, but there aren't many of those. So alternatively the young lady can get the opposite result."
Bernard Woolley: "How?"
Sir Humphrey: "Mr. Woolley, are you worried about the danger of war?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Are you worried about the growth of armaments?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Do you think there is a danger in giving young people guns and teaching them how to kill?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Do you think it is wrong to force people to take up arms against their will?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "Would you oppose the reintroduction of National Service?"
Bernard Woolley: "Yes"
Sir Humphrey: "There you are, you see Bernard. The perfect balanced sample."
well i havent seen anything to suggest its a homophobic attack, it could of been a random act of severe violence, however we must remember all crimes are hate crimes...
For some reason I had you put down as supporting the death penealty. Oh well, my mistake.
Theif I posted that first in the entertainment forum, I bet you copied and pasted my post.
I think that if you ventured outside your multicultural obsessed London bubble you would find that the majority of the British public are right wing and authoritarian.
Which explains why the right-wing party at the last election polled about 1/3 of votes cast I suppose...
But before Blair? What do you say about the voting pattern then? Even Thatcher never got more than 50% of the popular vote...
Oh dear, you really are quite deluded.
What was the election turnout? I think its fairer to say that the majority of people know that all political parties are shit.
Economically, they are right wing.
no actually i saw it on yes minister the other day they show it on bbc4 or something
its the episode that also has the 'in principle the cabinet agrees but in principle the cabinet thinks its in the best principled interests to conduct a full review'
that sort of thing, bloody fantastic episode
we just have great taste :thumb: