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Fuel prices .... Blair to blame!
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I can understand that Katrina may have knocked out some of the US oil refineries which would push up the price of fuel for the rest of the world ... but seeing that our fuel prices in the UK have skyrocketed ever since that bastard Blair took us into a war with Iraq, I think that he OWES us to cut the government duty on fuel to bring the cost per litre down to a more acceptable level. What do you think?
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The New Labour government didn't create the Fuel Tax Escalator, that dubious delight goes to the Conservative party. Who, incidentally, also started charging VAT on fuel used to heat homes.
The tax rate does need to be lowered on fuel, but at the same time, maybe this will encourage people who don't need to drive that perhaps the train or the bus is a viable alternative for sole-person journeys.
The problem is, as always, that the rural poor are being left high and dry because of the ridiculous tax levels. Over a quarter of a week's salary is going on travelling to work for many rural workers, and that is nothing short of a national disgrace.
Please note the fifth slide.
Stagecoach have to cream off their profits, so they do. Which is why my £8 bus ticket has gone up by a quid in three months.
Although words can't describe how much I despise Brian Souter, homophobe extraordinaire.
I find it's still cheaper for me to go to work by train than it is by car. Although I have a 1/3 railcard discount- if I didn't, the car would be far cheaper.
Good job we are plundering Iraq or we could have been in a bit of a mess, eh?
Some very interesting statistics there:
- For instance, whilst the State undoubtedly takes be biggest chunk of the pie, the oil companies themselves take a very healthy portion for themselves. Something to bear in mind the next time they claim the high price of petrol has nothing to do with them. Especially after they keep posting profits that can only be described as obscene.
- Also interesting to see that Britain does not have, as many claim, the most expensive petrol in the world. It's not even the most expensive in Europe.
- However Britain scores really badly in how much of those revenues are spent on improving the roads and public transport. That's nothing short of a disgrace actually
- Funny though to see that fuel tax has actually come down under Labour, despite people's perceptions
And don't get me started on Stagecoach today, fuckers charging kids adult rates at the only times of the day that they will travel... costs me a fortune to get my kid to school...
Sounds about right for Mr Souter.
Still, you should rest assured that your hard-earned money is being invested wisely in campaigns of targeted homophobia.
Of course:
Presumably these beliefs don't include being able to afford to get to work in a morning.
The other interesting part is how the price at the pump has increased already.
When you consider the delay between the oil being drawn and converted to petrol etc then the fuel at the pump is several weeks old - effectively this mean that the cost to the oil companies was at the lower rate.
Since when has reality ever been an issue for the fuel protestors?
the price increases that make things absurd are the retailers upping prices cause of higher oil prices
the recent prices since katrina are simply bnecause america cant live without cheap oil, thats why uk prices rise every american 'driving season' so people in the USA get their always cheap petrol - we subsidise it basically
Indeed, with the added joy of living in a rural area with no tube trains, no train station within three miles and no competitor bus company. No surprise that I cannot sympathise with London residents when they complain about their services.
The only other choice I have is to take him to school myself, thus adding my car to the throng heading into the town already (hardly surprising given the poor public transport) on roads clogged because of the traffic "calming" measures (note, not driver calming) which the local council have seen fit to include, at my cost.
Woo hoo, sound investment there then :rolleyes:
No.
Public transport is cheaper, but costs are rising quicker.........
Certainly my girlfriend used to work at a petrol stattion and her boss claimed that he made very little profit on the petrol, more from the shop etc
The oil companies themselves though do make literally obscene amounts of profit. I'd be interested to see a breakdown of profits now that you mention they get dividends from areas other than oil... But I suspect companies such as Shell and BP do make most of their profits from the sale of oil.
Last year Shell and BP made about $17bn profits each- that's £1m per hour
Nice sum if you can get it.
Because it makes it run like a cunt.
When I was greenkeeper I used to go in at weekends and fill up with cherry. For almost two years I spent hardly anything on fuel.
Yeah I am sure they get most of their profits from oil, but I beleuve not from petrol, considering that oil is used for many things other than petrol..........
You seriously think halving duty on fuel would be a good idea?! Where do you suppose that loss of revenue is going to be regained from. Something else will go up.
It's a fact that oil is going to get more expensive as it is a limited resource and we keep using more of it up.
Anybody recieved the idea yet about people boycotting BP and Shell? Somebody thought of the idea of just buying petrol at other garages forcing the big two to drop their prices. Found it in my spam filter other day.
bearing in mind they have been saying that for how long? There are alternatives but there is a huge amount of money invested in oil.
Personally I'd rather the massive profits made by the oil companies stayed in the UK (by buying from Shell and BP) than went abroad (TotalFinaElf, Esso, Jet).
Supermarket petrol is the dregs of the barrel and I'd never buy the stuff.
Well yeah I worked that out myself just asking if people had recieved the email. Also tries to show some stats that in a week three hundred million people will be reached. Thats what made me laugh the most. Be a clever trick to read 300,000,000 UK residents.
What's wrong with supermarket petrol? Tesco is always the cheapest round here, you can sometimes get coupons for 5p off per litre if you spend so much in Tesco and you also get clubcard points.
Nothing, UK petrol is homogenous. There might be variations in additives, though.
Supermarket petrol is just the simple product, and is cheap because they just buy bulk quantities of spare capacity from the refineries. It's cheaper for a reason.