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Victims- give them the right to speak out?

Minsters are planning to allow the families of victoims of serious crime to be speak out in court at sentencing.

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My first reaction was that this is a stupid idea, and that witness impact statements are enough, as Victim Support say. It's an awful thing to say, but the emotion of the grieving families shouldn't be put in court, because it isn't relevant. The more grief the family feels, the higher the sentence- that's not how it should be. And those who murder those without families are likely to get shorter sentences because there isn't the emotional plea.

Argument.

But I think this magazine article makes a very good point. Defendants can have a parade of character testimonies before sentence, so why shouldn't the victim have a parade of testimonies too?

On balance I think it's going to be a waste of money, but I can see the benefits of it. The costs of letting victims do this- in barristers fees and court time- probably isn't worth it, which is the trouble, and it would unduly affect those victims who don't have a huge family to come and gnash teeth.

I don't think they should do it I think the victim impact statements are enough. I can see the benefits of it, but I get the feeling its all one big publicity stunt for the government. The money this would cost- money that would come out of the Legal Aid budget- could help the poor get representation during divorce and other civil proceedings.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I know in the US both the defendant and the victims families can write to the judge and then he/she has the option to take that into account. That might be a better way forward than an emotional plea in the court room itself.

    It seems the justice system is moving more towards punishment which I disagree with, of course there is the element there but a purely punishment system doesnt work.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Kermit wrote:
    Defendants can have a parade of character testimonies before sentence, so why shouldn't the victim have a parade of testimonies too?

    Because it isn't relevant to the crime? Even a drug dealing whore beating pimp is a human being.

    The character witness for the defendant is more about how much of a threat they present - at least that's my understanding.

    As you say, emotion should be irrelevant.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The character witness for the defendant is more about how much of a threat they present - at least that's my understanding.

    That's pretty much it, really.

    And I don't think they're used much for murder trials, given that murder carries a minimum sentence of life imprisonment.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So the trial isn't about, and shouldn't be about, the victim at all, right?

    It's all about the defendant and this move undermines that?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't think they should do it either...I thought all human lives were supposed to be equal? Like Kermit says, if you have no family, or no contact with your family, or you are homeless or can't speak English, you are still a victim, just as much as the "family man" with lots of people to speak up for him.

    If a defendant is found guilty of murder, the only option is for a life sentence. For other serious crimes, there are tarriffs, indicating suitable sentences for the specific crime.
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