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It's not about "those people"...it's those technologies.
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First of all this is a question I'm asking the board. I have no background in...actually anything but school...not law enforcement or stopping terrorists. But my dad was having a discussion I thought was worth sharing.
Hope I say this right. Without doubt there are people right now who belong to a specific group who we most have to look out for in the West. BUT. There's another way to look at this challenge or if you call it war on terror...whatever you want to call it.
What if we ask this question of our leaders. With the rise of information sharing via the Internet, cell phones etc. why didn't anyone in our governments foresee that some people would use all of that information to meet other people who share their point of view and create plans/explosives to do evil -to fight people they saw as their enemy?Plus explosives have advanced too....but again it's not just the explosives but the information on how to make the explosives being shared that's the problem. So isn't it more valid (hope I'm making sense :nervous: ) to acknowledge(?) that yes right now we are fighting these extremists...but if all this information is going to be made available to everyone...shouldn't technology also be used to protect our societies from anyone who could use it in an evil way. Long term...isn't the problem about "those" technologies and not "those" people?
ANNND. If it is about the technologies...what the heck are we doing in Iraq.
Hope I say this right. Without doubt there are people right now who belong to a specific group who we most have to look out for in the West. BUT. There's another way to look at this challenge or if you call it war on terror...whatever you want to call it.
What if we ask this question of our leaders. With the rise of information sharing via the Internet, cell phones etc. why didn't anyone in our governments foresee that some people would use all of that information to meet other people who share their point of view and create plans/explosives to do evil -to fight people they saw as their enemy?Plus explosives have advanced too....but again it's not just the explosives but the information on how to make the explosives being shared that's the problem. So isn't it more valid (hope I'm making sense :nervous: ) to acknowledge(?) that yes right now we are fighting these extremists...but if all this information is going to be made available to everyone...shouldn't technology also be used to protect our societies from anyone who could use it in an evil way. Long term...isn't the problem about "those" technologies and not "those" people?
ANNND. If it is about the technologies...what the heck are we doing in Iraq.
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And no, we should not censor the Internet in any heavy handed way, it would massively stunt its growth and put power into the hands of those who shouldnt have it.
Pre-t'internet someone who hated the "Uk government" and wnated to blow themselves up would be a lone nut. With the internet he can find people who are likeminded with relative ease.
Cell phones allow them to co-ordinate etc.
Technology is just a facilitator though, it makes life easier for whoever uses it, no matter their aims. I don't think it's worth scrificing the freedom of 60 million people because a handful have died.
1) It won't stop terrorism.
2) It gives yet more power to grown up children who have proved over and over again they shouldn't have any.
Typical American, thinking that terrorism started in 1993.
Clearly the problem is not the Internet, but making information available to people at all.
We need to go back to a time when only the important and trusted could read. Just ask the khmer rouge.
people have been blowing each other up for fucking generations ...i blame the chineesee
Only technological challger is Russia and China, and only one has a decent armed forces.
you need degree level knowledge to get it though, and industry standard equipment
To be fair, terrorism is the use of weapons to create terror and fear, in the hope of changing the actions of another when there isn't enough force to do it.
A guerilla style war is a guerilla war, not terrorism - haven't you been reading your Che?
As for the technology thing, considering how fast technology is advancing, it wont be long until someone using that technology to organise terrorism could be easily tracked and caught.
Plus, you gotta remember, i think these technologies do a lot more good than they do bad.
Does the benefits of the internet outweigh the chance that people might misuse it to help organise terrorist attacks?
same with mobile phones.
I always thought that the terrorists used the art of guerilla war themselves too, for a different means. Same tactics, differnt goal. They only want to make people fear and pay attention to their group, so carry out dispicable acts in a hit and run manner. Or kill themselves doing it. But the two bear similar means, only one aims not to change so much and instill fear int o the enemy.
So guerilla war is an overall method of warfare, which may choose to use terrorism, which is a tool, as horrible as that may be, rather than an overall definition of a conflict. It could also be argued that tactics such as the Nazi's execution of 100 people in any village where 1 solider was killed could be seen as deliberately trying to cause terror and fear to suppress a population.