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government trying to increase amount of education
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from 5 to 16 to 3 to 18 by this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4696325.stm
completly pointless, put more training places in with this money, and id rather parents took some role in their childs education, not leaving it to the state for 12 years, why do you think in europe most kids start school at 7, cause their paretns take a real interest in teachin their kids the ultimate basics
disgraceful personally trying to get all 3 year olds into formal education
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4696325.stm
completly pointless, put more training places in with this money, and id rather parents took some role in their childs education, not leaving it to the state for 12 years, why do you think in europe most kids start school at 7, cause their paretns take a real interest in teachin their kids the ultimate basics
disgraceful personally trying to get all 3 year olds into formal education
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Why lock kids away to learn useless shite when they need to know how to read , write and basic maths, the address of the local library and some thinking skills.
Oh that's right, if you are going to install fundamentalist beliefs you have to do it young, before the mind can defend itself.
what i was trying to lightly put, anyone can normally teach their child the alphabet, and some basic english and maths
And to think....
State education's goal is to provide you with all the building blocks if thought so you won't actually have to do any thinking. You are in England, right, 2 times 2 makes 4 and obey authority for the sake of it......sad innit.
I never was told to 'obey the state' throughout my schooling....
very, teaching children in a non formal environment is the best anyway, otherwsie theyre under pressue to do things for results tables etc etc
i knew my times tables from age of 8 and could read fluently by 9, not the best, but useful..... my cousins doing his maths gcse at 12 cause he's mildly autistic.... the girl i tutor in AS Level chemistry, ive told her to spot how things change, not exactly what they are individually, and shes realised theres far less to remember than a couple of simple rules yet strangely they work better than trying to cram everything
at uni i cant cram everything for exams, the amounr of examined material is only half of what were taught, and what we're taught is so much you couldnt possibly learn it all exactly, you have to learn the vague chemical trends and some simple formulas, and derive the more exact answers
Pay attention when I am talking to you? Bell rings what do you do? Nice neat uniforms? Or did you argue with your teachers when they were wrong and that was fine? Ever wander out at lunchtime cos you wanted too? Rewrite a textbook cos it was bollocks?
I said authority, which once you have been thoroughly institutionalised and given partial freedom (to work and earn for your masters) you will assume to be "the state".
Europeans have better education.
Surely some mistake?
Yeah a usual government solution. It isn't working, so let's do it more.....
You are insane you know that.
Somehow I don't think Children can be trusted to educate themselves in the classroom. Hence the need for teachers.
Ignore the teachers who said "the bell is for me, not for you" and left anyway.
Only the weird ones. Even when we got Uniform Cards, and six signatures meant detention after school, nobody took any notice.
Pretty much, if we could argue why we thought they were wrong rather than arguing just for the sake of it.
I think teaching kids at school from 3 years old is bollocks though. Most three year olds wouldn't have the attention span to sit in a classroom and learn. I know I didn't at 3, and I was one of the quiet ones
3 is just taking the piss.
More monkeys for the organ grinder.
Yes, completely. What's your point? Even the mad can be right and so you are going to have to addres what I said instead. (That was logic I believe)
They need to be in classrooms? Odd, I see no reason why.
Disobeyed the teacher but obeyed the bell, great!
You went in your own clothes and only when you felt like it? Nice. How often did you bother going?
And they changed the textbooks in line wth what you came up with? Cool.
First point yes. Second point no. I've seen kids apparently with ADD play with the same toy for 4 hours straight, which indicates a high level of concentration for some things. Perhaps it's just boring, uninspiring shite they struggle with.
in europe most children start to go to school at 7, surely they're all thickheads then?
exactly my cousin has im not sure, he's either mildly autistic or ADD or something, anyway he used to have problem at school then he went to a special school and he's doing REALLY REALLY well now, he's a nice kid - quite good at unreal tournament for a kid :shocking:
Yeh, 'cause I really wanted to ruin my own clothes at school. I'd rather wear a uniform and look the same as everyone else than have everyone pick on me for what I used to wear outside of school, like they did with some of the people on non-uniform days. I didn't say that, either. Like I said above, I wanted to learn, thanks.
Of course they didn't. But they didn't write them in the first place, did they. Except for one of the Science teachers, but that's not the point. They encouraged us to argue what was written, and come up with our own ideas.
Toys are different though, aren't they? I've seen my 3yo baby sister sit and play with a hair scrunchie for hours, but try and make her do anything where you tell her she has to sit and listen for more than 10 minutes and she gets bored.
My old school is also massively increasing. The student population went from 1000 to about 1250 in 5 years. That's 50 new students a year. They went from 8 tutor groups in the year below me to 12 in the now year 8's. There was not enough classroom space. Where are they gonna get the room for all the new kids from, as well as the teaching staff?
The whole idea is just stupid imo.
1. Well where else would they learn? Or are you suggesting every child should be closed up in their own homes and not get to meet other children?
2. The bell is the sign the lesson is over, of course people are going to leave.
I recently went back to visit my primary school, and it was having a new classroom built, along with the 5 new classrooms built a few years back. If 3 year olds are to be taught, they will require even more rooms. Some schools just cant grow any bigger. At my primary school they have large grounds so it would be possible to build more classrooms at the loss of some of the sports field.
But as i said before, where would the teachers for these extra classes come from?
And as Franki said, how many 3 year olds would have the concentration span to learn anything worthwhile? If some parents took more interest in spending time with their children and playing educational games and so on, instead of just shoving the kids infront of a tv/dvd, then maybe there wouldnt be the need to teach 3 year olds in school settings
Personally I'd be quite happy for my children to have a couple of hours at playschool each day, it socialises them into dealing with other children and is cheaper than having to pay a nanny.
I learnt just about all of what was taught to me in reception and year 1 before i even got to school, because my mum worked for the council and i was sent to the same nursery as the lord mayors kids, as part of my mum's pay deal. If they put more money into improving preschool provisions, and gave more support to mums who want to stay at home this wouldn't need to be done.
Kids are at school for less time and still resieve a better education in europe. This could be down to the whole family getting involved in the kids homework activities. And the sizes of the classes are much smaller, the teachers are much more dedicated, and given more one to one help. If people are struggling they are kept behind more and the standards of the tests set are far higher.
you need a total overhaul in how the education system works and give parents more insentives to help their children out and get them intrested in what their child does and give them more of a chance to see what their child does in school.
School can often turn intelegent toddlers into blabbering sheep who leave school with nothing. And no one seems to care...
If kids were allowed to exspress themselves in more creative methods and were given more challenges then this wouldn't be happening. No one is being stretched apart from teachers patients...