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Spiked?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
I can't remember a thing from last night, not one wthing.

The odd thing is yeah, I shared a jay around 1 o'clock, then went out on the beer around 7 and something wierd happened.... I'm not a lightweight, I can drink more than some of my male mates, but for some reason I got really wrecked on a couple of pints...

It was wierd, I can't remember anything, I wasn't in control... I was talking, but it didn't seem like me talking. Could I have been spiked? I've never felt that wierd before.

It scares me because I only have a few flashbacks and I could have ended up pregnant if somebody wanted to (but hey, wrong time in my cycle for that, thank god), or killed or something... Now I wasn't hardly stoned from the jay I shared and I ate before I went out.

Any ideas?

I'm not ill either, though I'm taking mild herbs for depression that wouldn't affect my drinking.

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  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Could have been spiked...

    Did you have your drinks around you all night? Was there the opportunity for someone to have dropped something in?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Chem:Lab wrote:
    Could have been spiked...

    Did you have your drinks around you all night? Was there the opportunity for someone to have dropped something in?
    Yeah come to think of it... What're the effects of the stuff they spike with?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The effects vary from drug to drug.

    GHB (gammahydroxybutyrate) is a possibility. At low doses, it's often used recreationally, but at higher doses it can cause disorientation, memory loss and numb the muscles. I don't know if this has a distinctive taste or not.

    Then there's Rohypnol. It can be ground into a tasteless and colourless powder and dropped into a drink without the recipient's knowledge. The effects can last age (8 hours or so), and all traces of the drug will leave the body within 24 hours - this makes prosecution in date-rape cases difficult.

    The thing with Rohypnol is that victims can lose all memory of an attack, which is pretty worrying. Hence it's notoriety as a date-rape drug.

    So...uh...yeh. Could be one of those two.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Chem:Lab wrote:
    GHB (gammahydroxybutyrate) is a possibility. At low doses, it's often used recreationally, but at higher doses it can cause disorientation, memory loss and numb the muscles. I don't know if this has a distinctive taste or not.

    GHB has a salty taste to it, quite unpleasant if it's taken on it's own. But in the case of it being added to a drink, then the taste won't be apparent...

    MoonRat's effects sound similar to GHB but nobody can say for sure. We're you mixing your drinks in anyway?
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Not really mixing them, I have a strong stomach for drinking...

    I'd never felt like last night before, honestly. I know when I'm drunk and I was not drunk.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i'm not sure what it could have been, don't think it was ecstacy, it doesn't make you "lose" control in that sense, if you were given GHB and you continued drinking you'd just simply collapse, i know, not sure bout the rest, maybe bong or someone will have more info....
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    either your mates were putting depth charges in your drinks...maybe it was spiked or are you on st johns wort? because that can often have an effect.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    turlough wrote:
    if you were given GHB and you continued drinking you'd just simply collapse

    Well it all depends on the dosage really, i've had a nice dose of GHB before a night on the town and the effects were enjoyable, but like you say, the more you drink the worse it gets...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Chem:Lab wrote:
    So...uh...yeh. Could be one of those two.

    Or it could be about 10 other drugs except they arent 'evil' so they dont get the press coverage.

    Moonrat; I'm sorry to hear you had something nasty happen, sounds frightening.

    Is this the first time you have gone drinking on these herbs?

    How quickly did the effects become apparent?

    Did you feel relaxed or more just numb?

    Did it feel dissassociative or more just sedative?

    As for it being rohypnol, its unlikely, its not available on script here so its actually very rare. However its possible it could have been any of the other benzo's, they all do roughly the same thing.

    Did you sleep afterwards? And if so for how long?

    Sorry to ask all the questions its just the press attention around date-rape REALLY pisses me off because it is pure scare stories with next to no evidence. Like the ban on GHB, the government admited they didnt know how many cases there were but 'its definately on the increase' so they banned it.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If it was GHB most people get a feeling of tunnel vision the next day
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mel-H wrote:
    If it was GHB most people get a feeling of tunnel vision the next day

    What on Earth are you talking about? Thats totally rubbish.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thats what i read somewere and its also what i experienced
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Could have been GHB but you can never really be sure.

    I'm sorry to hear that happened to you, my cousin got spiked before and near died. It's a terrible thing.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    whats the punishment for that sorta thing? i mean like u got caught and nicked? i can imagine it must be pretty harsh, considering people can die from such things.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Few years i guess.

    Whatever the sentence for rape is...
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    bongbudda wrote:

    Is this the first time you have gone drinking on these herbs?
    Yeah, but they're only very mild and can be taken alongside other drugs... Avena Sativa is prepared as a liquid (it's wild oats) and won't react with alcohol. In fact a lot of chemists prepare it with alcohol in a pippette... It's the safest herb you can take for depression.
    How quickly did the effects become apparent?
    Around fifteen minutes?
    Did you feel relaxed or more just numb?
    I don't remember a lot of the night, I wasn't distressed but I wasn't in control either... My legs felt quite wobbly and my co-ordination was messed up. I wasn't unhappy or scared in that state... Somebody could easily have pinned me to a dancefloor and raped me.
    Did it feel dissassociative or more just sedative?
    The first I guess... I was dizzy and not in control, from what I remember... I mean people are saying I did this and that and having spent a tenner on alcohol all night (plus I ate a meal at tea time) I don't see how I could have got in such a state. My thinking was slowed down, from what I remember on the bus... I think I was rambling shit... It's like I wasn't connected to something or other...

    Did you sleep afterwards? And if so for how long?
    This is the funny thing... I have no idea when I got in, but it was probably between 2-3am... But for some reason I woke up at 8am bright and breezy. No hangover, no grogginess... The only problem has been a slightly sensitive stomach.


    Just to note I'm 21 and have a pretty high threshold for alcohol and a similar thing happened to a mate of mine on the same night, he was sitting pretty near me too. Only he was vomiting quite a lot, was falling off his chair and apparently was talking shit and being a bit grumpy. But like I say, my mate told me this the night after we went out after I said what had happened to me..
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Jonny8888 wrote:
    whats the punishment for that sorta thing? i mean like u got caught and nicked? i can imagine it must be pretty harsh, considering people can die from such things.
    Assult charges
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Mel-H wrote:
    Thats what i read somewere and its also what i experienced

    Sorry, I was quite harsh and needlessly too. I've just never heard of anyone suffering from that.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    This is the funny thing... I have no idea when I got in, but it was probably between 2-3am... But for some reason I woke up at 8am bright and breezy. No hangover, no grogginess... The only problem has been a slightly sensitive stomach.

    That to me would mean GHB then, most of the other drug used have a longer life to them, it couldnt have been a benzo with that effect and ketamine is unlikely too.

    Though of course I cant say for definate.
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah i've had similar experiences where something just doesnt feel right and you shouldnt be as aniebriated (sp?) as you feel.
    Can't explain it to be honest, in my case i probably got spiked by one of my mates or something who thought it would be funny, but no harm done so never mind (i know spiking is a serious issue but i trust my friends not to kill me with anything dangerous)
    On another note, one of my mates once tried to spike my drink with viagra, i nearly drank it until my other friend warned me about it, so i kept hold of the drink until later on when the person who gave me the drink was a little bit more the worse for wear then gave it back to them (he drank it too)...heh heh
  • Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It wouldnt have worked unless he got arroused, if you were given it and didnt know it then you would just be a bit more liable to... rather than actually it just doing it by itself.
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