Drunk or Drugged

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how can i tell if my 16yr old son has had drugs and not booze i'v just been told he is now taking whizz and E,s just when i thought we had finally got him to stop taking pot although he is not showing any problem signs like he was before i.e getting in trouble with the police,aggressive and doing bad at school i did find a small white tablet in he's pocket with an R on he said it was a painkiller for toothache if ANYONE has any ideas i would be grateful. <IMG SRC="confused.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

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I just can't stay away from this place <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

The only real way of finding out and dealing with the situation effectivly is to ask him, i know he may only deny it, but maintaing trust is paramount in the situation, going through his pockets and genearlly spying on him turns it into a game of cat and mouse, and will only cause him to be sly and decitful. If you can't get him to admit it then you have two viable options, accept his answer and leave things until you have real evidence, then you can confront him. Secondly and in my opinion the better option is to make sure if he's doing drugs, then he's been safe and sensible. Just say, i'm not accusing you of using drugs but if you are, then make sure you stay safe, tell him how to minimise the risks, try to underline the dangers, make sure he knows the difference between recreational drugs and hard drugs, the step up is too easy when your not aware of the increased troubles it will bring. Many many people use pot, whizz and e's every weekend, they have normal healthy lives and remain uneffected by their 'habit', the trick is not to allow it to get out of hand and to know what your doing.

If my mum questioned me tomorrow, i would lie point blank, and beyond that would take extra care to ease her suspicion, its just human nature and if he does continue to hide it from you, then i wouldn't worry too much, as long as he's been safe then your mind should be at rest with the situation <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

If you want expert adivce try http://www.ndh.org.uk or phone 0800 77 66 00, its a free phone number and they specialise in helping people with concerns such as yourself <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

Above all remember, taking recreational drugs is no where near as bad as the government and media would have you believe, a vast majority of youngsters will experiment at some point in their lives, your son isn't abnormal in any way, in fact quite ordinary in his habits <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

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nice of you to incriminate fellow disco-biscuit munchers RNT <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

agree with eb though - but a person with parents like that is very lucky


hello thesite btw <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

[ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: Kioka ]

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Thanks everyone for replying i really was very worried when i wrote this he has admitted what he has used and i think maybe i am the oldest on here or perhaps i maybe the only one seeing it from a parents point of view i'm just so terrified of him dying from it when i see so much on the news especially about E,s as my eldest son had problems also which in turn led him to failing all he's exams and he's life was shit as he was always depressed although he is ok now special thanks to eb who has given me a good web site which i am going to look into properly thanks ofum

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Hi there fed up Mum, I am another fed up Mum, just wanted to let you know you are not alone !!

No time tochat now - but I will be back !

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Originally posted by onefedupmum:
<STRONG> i'm just so terrified of him dying from it when i see so much on the news especially about E,s

special thanks to eb who has given me a good web site which i am going to look into properly thanks ofum</STRONG>

no worries <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

the chances of him dying are so small its stupid, look at 'skive's ecstasy risk perspective thread in drugs, you'd have alot more worries in that department if he were drinking alcohol on a regular basis - the reason these deaths are on the news is because they are so rare, and happen without exception because the user isn't educated in what they are doing - nobody has ever died from an allergic reaction or a contaminated pill, its all just well worded government scare tactics <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> just keep an eye on him, and more importantly what he is using, if heroin, crack and possibly cocaine enter the equation then you have reason to worry, but at present you do not <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

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Originally posted by justamum:
<STRONG>Hi there fed up Mum, I am another fed up Mum, just wanted to let you know you are not alone !!

No time tochat now - but I will be back !

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We're getting a nice family feel in this forum. <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

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Originally posted by Mindless all the way:
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We're getting a nice family feel in this forum. <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"></STRONG>

all these mums everywhere, do you think if we ask nicely they'll make us a roast on sunday (a nice joint) <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> maybe with some pEas <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">, then some tiny strawberries for desert, rounded of with a nice glass of coke

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You are well cheeky eb..and I knew you'd be back!

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Originally posted by onefedupmum:
<STRONG>i'm just so terrified of him dying from it </STRONG>

If this is what scares you most then maybe it's best to sit down and have a chat to him about the WAY he's using the drug. For a start, this would encourage you both to talk about it and would reassure him that you're not just being a nagging mum and are on his side.

Ecstacy CAN be used 'more safely' ie. you can take precautions. Unfortunately you never know exactly what's in the little white pills but you can use them carefully.


For a start, don't drink alcohol or mix any other drug with E (***wishes she listened to her own advice****).

Take only 1/2 at a time.

Drink plenty of water throughout the evening.

Make sure you're with other people who are aware of what you're taking and will look out for you.

Replenish reduced seratonin levels the next day by eating bananas (the 'happy fruit').

Taking these steps reduces any risk, although it doesn't eradicate it completely. Just teach him to be careful if he's going to use E at all, and to use it with respect. That way, he'll be <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> and <IMG SRC="eek.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> and you'll be <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> not <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> .

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'S shame we can't put the "other side" of the argument across to more parents, I think a lot of problems are caused by excessive over-reaction (on both sides of the generation gap I hasten to add).

Maybe a parents guide to their kids drug-taking??

*Wonders if mods are listening*

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I thought perhaps i should clarify a bit more he had actually took mitsubishi turbo E,whizz,AND a 3ltr bottle of cider and although i have never took drugs i did look into them after having earlier problems with he's eldest brother who at the time was that bad he was stealing money from my purse and selling cd,s jewelry etc.. at one point we had to put a padlock on our bedroom door which i found out he was unscrewing to get in then screwing it back on,so from what i learned all the above that my 16yr old took was extremely dangerous to be mixing all the above at the same time i will just have to hope he has more sense now because as i see it if he WANTS to do it he will as i can't be there 24hrs a day to stop him <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

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Originally posted by onefedupmum:
<STRONG>I thought perhaps i should clarify a bit more he had actually took mitsubishi turbo E,whizz,AND a 3ltr bottle of cider and although i have never took drugs i did look into them after having earlier problems with he's eldest brother who at the time was that bad he was stealing money from my purse and selling cd,s jewelry etc.. at one point we had to put a padlock on our bedroom door which i found out he was unscrewing to get in then screwing it back on,so from what i learned all the above that my 16yr old took was extremely dangerous to be mixing all the above at the same time i will just have to hope he has more sense now because as i see it if he WANTS to do it he will as i can't be there 24hrs a day to stop him <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"></STRONG>

Yes your quite right if he wants to do it he will, you can't stop him, so just make sure he's safe and mixing all those ceratinly is risky <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> I suppose with age you grow up, mature and learn the error in your ways, the younger you are the more invincible you believe yourself to be <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">

The fact he steals from you concerns me alot more, this isn't good at all, i could never steal from my parents and the fact he does indicates he has a drug problem, the drugs in question aren't to expensive at street value, but then if he's still at school perhaps thats the reason, but either way if your stealing to feed your habit then is obviously considers drugs a much higher priority than the more important things in life, sounds like you've got your hands full <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">