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Could the conservatives image make polls difficult?
BillieTheBot
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The Conservatives are getting a bit of a bashing for being potentially racist or whatever, could this make people less likely to say they will vote for them when asked?
Could there be lots of slightly embarressed Conservative voters out there?
Are they really reaching out to the 'silent majority'?
Could there be lots of slightly embarressed Conservative voters out there?
Are they really reaching out to the 'silent majority'?
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Sad to say most people are racist, even and some times especially the ones who would proclaim loudest they are not. They are the worst IME because of the backhanded qualifications they give to things.
The effect such campaign is actually having is to make previously disenchanted Labour supporters change their minds about not voting for 'that bastard Blair' on this election. Because next to this Conservative Party, Blair looks like the dog's bollocks.
So for every person Howard's 'war' on gypsies and immigrants wins over for the Tories, it'd seem two or three people will come out and vote for Labour in order to stop the Tories getting in.
More generalised bullshit.
Maybe, I was just thinking really, no-one says in the polls that they will vote BNP but thousands do.
More one line, dissmissive comments from Blagsta. I was talking from my own experience.
Would you like to go to the nearest factory canteen and listen in?
Then perhaps you should make it clear that it is merely in your experience when you state:
I don't find them so. I was quite surprised to find an openly racist taxi-driver the other day - something of a dinosaur where I come from.
I thought I had put IME in both sentences - my bad I do apologise.
Key word for this thread is "openly".
Ahhhh...you're a mind reader. That explains everything.
For once I was on topic.
So when I tend to just monitor two pollsters - MORI using the figures from those who say they are certain to vote and YouGov because it's an internet pollster and so respondents have no fear of offending a sampler.
YouGov gives Labour an average lead of 1.7% since the start of campaign and MORI's certain to vote figure (not including telephone polling for reasons I'll explain below) gives an average Labour lead of 2%.
The reason I don't include telephone polling is because firstly so many people are either on the Telephone Preference Service or out at work so can't be contacted. Also remember it was mainly telephone based polling that predicted a Kerry victory in the American elections...
I use all the polls together as a trend, and the trend is definitely towards Labour at the moment, they've been especially successful at getting those people who would be apathetic or vote for smaller parties back on side - or perhaps that was Michael Howard? :chin:
However, to see some polls at the moment predicting another landslide majority, I just can't believe it tbh. I reckon it'll be a Labour majority between 60-80 seats depending on how well the rest of the campaign goes for them. The evidence from the bookies seems to suggest the same thing.
Vote for Phoney, let him go out on a high. He will probably crow on in his autobiography, which no doubt he'll start once he's left office, about his wonderful victory blah blah blah,
I think Howard displays integrity and comes across as a man of principle compared to that snake-oil saleman Blair.
Don't put words into Howards mouth lamp boy, he's never declared "war" on gypsies and immigrants. He accurately reflects the mood of most people in this country who want a government that tackles these issues that have been allowed to veer out of control under Labour.
We need our national borders protected, we need a controlled immigration policy, and we all need to be equal under the law, and that includes local planning laws.
When was the last time you were in a factory canteen?
And, even if all the people who work in factories are racist (which is a bazar claim) there arent all that many people who bloody work in them anymore.
Fantastic. Words fail me.
Weird. I need the law to fuck off and leave me alone. Who is the "we" you are on about here?
January.
Go down the dole office then.
Which year? Where? What did people say?
Most people my arse.
Why isnt he in the lead then?
Do tell us again how bad the NHS is RK... and then try to lecture us about "smear, lies and spin".
I would like to applaud the frontline staff in the NHS they do a fine job under difficult circumstances and the wretched government targets.
Terrible to read today about a young mother (22) who suffered a miscarriage at Manchester Royal Infirmary and on leaving was handed her baby's body in a plastic bag.
Last year a 14yr old school-girl had been sent home after suffering a miscarriage at Bishop Auckland General Hospital with her baby in a specimen bottle.
You couldn't make these tragedies up, and we're not talking about a third world country, we're talking about Britain.
That is not my experience.
I could ask for a source, but whats the point?
They sound like tragic cases, but as Aladdin rightly points out you can not generalise from two or even two hundred cases.
Finally some sense.
Just because a paper tells you that someone was treated a certain way doesn't mean it's:
a) The gospel truth
b) Even a half truth
c) The way everyone gets treated
The mass media has an awful lot to answer.
Of course one issue we really know little of, although it does surface from time to time, is the question of "hidden" waiting lists - what is the truth about such lists? Are they being compiled for "political" reasons?
Well why dont you tell us what you know and we can go from there.