Robert Kilroy-Silk Launches Party Manifesto

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4444167.stm

After watching the hour-long speech, I concluded 'Kilroy' was talking sense, was neither racist or discriminatory and clearly passionate about his policies yet realistic about his chances at the election. I was impressed by his frankness on controversial issues and rare (among politicians) ability to plunge straight to the point.

Really though, who would be stupid enough to actually vote for them?

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The man has lost his marbles.

Out of curiosity, did he actually pledged to 'crush immigrants like ants'? Couldn't find the quote on the article...

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If he made a pledge to crush ants he might get a few votes. Pesky little blighters...

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I disagree with essentially all his views but I appreciate his frankness. He doesn't sugar coat it!

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Kilroy and I guess to a certain extent, the Tories, seem to be labouring under the illusion there is some great British culture in danger of being wiped out. Surely British culture is just representative of the people that live here? I find his and the Tories policies on immigration wholly worrying.

I also think the point scheme that seems to becoming part of every parties manifesto morally repugnant. You can actually rate a person’s usefulness on a scale.

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The man is a nasty rascist bastard. He should be locked away in some mental asylum.

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CptCoatHanger wrote:

Kilroy and I guess to a certain extent, the Tories, seem to be labouring under the illusion there is some great British culture in danger of being wiped out. Surely British culture is just representative of the people that live here? I find his and the Tories policies on immigration wholly worrying.

I also think the point scheme that seems to becoming part of every parties manifesto morally repugnant. You can actually rate a person’s usefulness on a scale.

I don't see anything to be proud of in Britain, I'd much rather be European. I don't know if they've been recently but it's nice there!

My British birth is just luck, I see no difference between myself and someone born anywhere else on the Earth. Though, at the same time, I don't have any objection to being challenged for eligibility of entry should I decide to apply for emigration rights to Canada.

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ginner wrote:

I don't see anything to be proud of in Britain, I'd much rather be European. I don't know if they've been recently but it's nice there!

My British birth is just luck, I see no difference between myself and someone born anywhere else on the Earth. Though, at the same time, I don't have any objection to being challenged for eligibility of entry should I decide to apply for emigration rights to Canada.

I pretty much agree completely. I think stating the purpose of emigration should generally be enough to work out whether you want to let a person into the country.

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CptCoatHanger wrote:

I pretty much agree completely. I think stating the purpose of emigration should generally be enough to work out whether you want to let a person into the country.

I've not completely formed my opinion on the issue. I'd welcome anyone willing to contribute to the country's success.

I don't know if your familiar with the Canadian system. They want you to meet a certain number of standards (achieve a points total) to be considered as a Skilled Worker. I just about scrape through once I've graduated and worked full time for a year, though there are other worker options.

Is it fair to expect economic migrants to contribute to the economy? I'd say yes, and I think that's what most parties are proposing?

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Renzo wrote:

The man is a nasty rascist bastard. He should be locked away in some mental asylum.

Why should peoople in mental hospitals have to put up with him?

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ginner wrote:

I've not completely formed my opinion on the issue. I'd welcome anyone willing to contribute to the country's success.

I don't know if your familiar with the Canadian system. They want you to meet a certain number of standards (achieve a points total) to be considered as a Skilled Worker. I just about scrape through once I've graduated and worked full time for a year, though there are other worker options.

Is it fair to expect economic migrants to contribute to the economy? I'd say yes, and I think that's what most parties are proposing?

I see what you're saying but surely it's just as vital that someone is there to collect your rubbish as it is to operate on you?

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ginner wrote:

I've not completely formed my opinion on the issue. I'd welcome anyone willing to contribute to the country's success.

I don't know if your familiar with the Canadian system. They want you to meet a certain number of standards (achieve a points total) to be considered as a Skilled Worker. I just about scrape through once I've graduated and worked full time for a year, though there are other worker options.

Is it fair to expect economic migrants to contribute to the economy? I'd say yes, and I think that's what most parties are proposing?

what if immigrants havent had the option of training? not everyone lives in such a priviledged society as us.

and anyhow, we need people to do the shit jobs - cleaners, caretakers, dustbinmen etc may not have desirable jobs or need any qualifications to do them, but they are vital to society. immigrants don't need skills - just a willingness to work

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CptCoatHanger wrote:

I see what you're saying but surely it's just as vital that someone is there to collect your rubbish as it is to operate on you?

lol just what i was trying to say.

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Renzo wrote:

The man is a nasty rascist bastard. He should be locked away in some mental asylum.

I don't like him, nor would I ever vote for him, but unlike some of you extremists on here, I don't immediately press the "hatred" button and resort to calling him names - quite frankly its childish and dsiplays a certain ignorance!

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Rich Kid wrote:

I don't like him, nor would I ever vote for him, but unlike some of you extremists on here, I don't immediately press the "hatred" button and resort to calling him names - quite frankly its childish and dsiplays a certain ignorance!

are you denying that he is racist?

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Rich Kid wrote:

I don't like him, nor would I ever vote for him, but unlike some of you extremists on here, I don't immediately press the "hatred" button and resort to calling him names - quite frankly its childish and dsiplays a certain ignorance!

I'd say branding an entire race "murderers, terrorists and wife beaters" is profoundly racist. Don't you agree?

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Rich Kid wrote:

I don't like him, nor would I ever vote for him, but unlike some of you extremists on here, I don't immediately press the "hatred" button and resort to calling him names - quite frankly its childish and dsiplays a certain ignorance!

Just when i thought i'd managed to find a thread where i could have a reasonable discussion, you come along again. Please for the sake of reasoned debate leave this thread alone.

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Aladdin wrote:

I'd say branding an entire race "murderers, terrorists and wife beaters" is profoundly racist. Don't you agree?

When did he say that?
Looked it up to remind myself of what he said. Yea, totally beyond the pale!!! But who takes him seriously?

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longdog wrote:

Why should peoople in mental hospitals have to put up with him?

I'm sorry that was mean with me.

He should be locked in a small box in the middle of a desert.

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A waste of the word 'Veritas' if you ask me. It may as well be called the UKIPIP party and save Veritas for a party worthy of the word.

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Rich Kid wrote:

When did he say that?

When he wrote that article for the Express last year. You must remember the storm that followed...

Here is more info: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3376633.stm

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Renzo wrote:

I'm sorry that was mean with me.

He should be locked in a small box in the middle of a desert.

He should be locked in a room, bound and gagged (so he can't incessantly interrupt), then have someone from a civil war torn country explain to him the atrocities they've experienced and seen.

Then he should be shipped off to the desert to think about what an absolute cunt he is.

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CptCoatHanger wrote:

He should be locked in a room, bound and gagged (so he can't incessantly interrupt), then have someone from a civil war torn country explain to him the atrocities they've experienced and seen.

Then he should be shipped off to the desert to think about what an absolute cunt he is.

As I said on page 1 where we differ is that I'm not full of hatred and bile like some of you. I feel sorry for your inability to cope with someone you don't like without resorting to childish ignorant name-calling!

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xmizzcattyx wrote:

what if immigrants havent had the option of training? not everyone lives in such a priviledged society as us.

and anyhow, we need people to do the shit jobs - cleaners, caretakers, dustbinmen etc may not have desirable jobs or need any qualifications to do them, but they are vital to society. immigrants don't need skills - just a willingness to work

I'm not sure about that, I'm speaking only of economic migrants. We have plenty of low prospect individuals born here we have a duty already to find employment for. I think I'd probably welcome anyone, just not as readily. I think we should, like the Canadians demand a good standard of our principle language for all economic migrants. Perhaps it would be better to liberally offer the student visas and see how the people train up?

The Canadians consider language skills, training, family ties and already agreed job contracts before giving a yes or no. I don't object to being asked to meet Canadian controls if I want to get out of here. I treat others how I would expect to be treated.

Have a browse:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.html

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Rich Kid wrote:

childish ignorant name-calling!

I think your views on immigration are well known, are they not?

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Kentish wrote:

I think your views on immigration are well known, are they not?

And pray what are they (in your view)?

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Then he should be shipped off to the desert to think about what an absolute cunt he is.

Canadians demand a good standard of our principle language for all economic migrants

I think they do that as much to piss off the faux frenchies in Quebec as much as anything.

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Rich Kid wrote:

And pray what are they (in your view)?

Do you not share Mr Kilroy-Silk's views on immigrants and argue for stricter controls on these 'bogus asylum seekers'? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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klintock wrote:

I think they do that as much to piss off the faux frenchies in Quebec as much as anything.

I meant one of their. Well noticed.

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Rich Kid wrote:

As I said on page 1 where we differ is that I'm not full of hatred and bile like some of you.

Some of your comments on drug users and immigrants suggest otherwise.

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Rich Kid wrote:

I feel sorry for your inability to cope with someone you don't like without resorting to childish ignorant name-calling!

Rich Kid wrote:

Drug users are in my view the scum of the earth

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