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Sorry mate tell me again what you are after and I will provide it. (The book precis that is, I know what you are looking for this thread)
I have been pretty busy I am afraid, with a guy unable to cope with his fellow workers, two smokers and a rubber band phobic to get through amongst others.
i willl answer the point you are after tomorrow as well if i get a chance.
BS? Well let's find out the easy way - by going and seeing.
having suffered from clinical depression for 5 years, it makes me extremely angry to read such ignorant views on the illness from a seemingly intelligent person.
Sorry to hear that.
Sorry to hear that you have felt that you are ill for so long too. Want to have some fun and help me do a demonstration?
felt that i was ill?! i was ill. i am now recovered.
i see depression as the same as a physical illness
I don't. Sorry to see we disagree about that. Barring a lesion in the left frontal lobe it's a psychological phenomenon as far as I am concerned.
One that doesn't take years to get rid of either.
Its attitudes like that which make it worse than a physical illness. If you have a broken leg everyone can see what's the matter and can bring you grapes whilst you lie in hospial.
If you're suffering from depression all you get are people telling you to cheer up or that there's nothing wrong with you.
Oh no. I would be able to see what was wrong if I had them in front of me, no problem.
Lol. If you say so Blagsta. haven't time for the critique atm. Fancy being a demonstration subject so I can show how you how to run your brain?
That's good because we know what's wrong - they're suffering from depression (or a broken leg - its not exactly clear from the bit of my post you quoted what you're talking about)
I take that's a no then. Anyone else?
Yeah does seem unclear. How would you know that someone was depressed just from looking at them, and not acting?
Yeah, but HOW do you "cheer up"? Clearly depressives don't know or they'd be getting on with it.
Not at all! I strongly disagree! Homosexuality isn't natural. We as living things strive to reproduce. That's our whole existence - to continue existing. If a man wants to go for other men, they can't reproduce and this isn't life. The law shouldn't have to be changed to prosecute people who disagree with perversions of nature.
(Before you say it - I've got nothing against homo/bi people)
So you are saying nothing should be done to protect homosexuals from persecution in any way shape or or form?
Oh christ, here we go again. :rolleyes:
The Brits are toooo hung up about sex Lol, let alone engaging in anal sex
who really gives a flying fig what another persons sexuality is, so
long as your happy with your own :cool:
We couldn't be further removed from nature in our own comfortable little worlds. The only thing natural that we do indirectly apart from bear children is contribute to companies that exploit and sometimes even cause the death of people in the third world. It's Capitalism, a self-destructive version of survival of the fittest.
The whole nature arguement personally I don't like because we couldn't be further removed from nature these days. We get a sniffle and we fill ourselves with chemicals, we're too lazy to hunt so we buy microwave meals and we're scared of pretty much everything the media tells us to fear. We're in a state of self destruction imo.
If a multinational company wants to destroy rainforests to build crops to feed their genetically modified and hormone filled cows so we can feed unhealthy meals to our kids or eat something with virtually no nutritional value. That destroys wildlife and our health. It won't help us to continue existing eventually.
IVF is messing with nature too and not natural, neither is using contraception if you're to use the arguement of nature.
Anyway... What is more natural than love?
It is a way of understanding people's homophobia though, is it not?
I think homophobia is a fear that the person is secretly aroused by it personally.
Sometimes, I think this is true. However, I also think this argument is overplayed by the anti-homophobia corner because it's kind of attacking them where they're most sensitive. I think for most people who've never encountered homosexuality the first reaction is a kind of :shocking: fear. Then again, it depends how you're brought up - most people's first reaction to heterosexuality is fear, too
I think for some people it's difficult for them to bury their fear of the unknown, so to speak, and so perhaps there should be a tolerance of the intolerant, too. I'm not saying put up with gay bashers, but things are changing, with every generation more and more people join the 'it's your life, live it how you want' camp, so I think sometimes you've just got to let people get on with their lives, they may not be happy having homosexuality a part of it.
Homophobia is wrong!
Of course you've nothign against homo/bi people.
You just think we're unnatural.
As Blagsta says, here we go again... :rolleyes:
I think homosexuality is unnatural, but of all the homosexual people I've ever met I've never treated them any differently (well, I got pissed off at this one girl, who was going round saying to everyone "I'm a lesbian!" like she deserved special treatment, but that's a personality conflict). I think in this day and age it's relatively irrelevent whether it's natural or not, but it's not the way human's are 'designed'. Cars aren't natural, TVs aren't natural, the frigging internet isn't natural, I still use them though.
Including 'capitalism'?
If you like. You'd also have to then include fascism, communism, anarchism etc. This is why drawing a distinction between "natural" and "unnatural" isn't very helpful.