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Personality Disorder?
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Just wondered if this caught anybody's attention on the news last night and what you guys think of it.
Personally the idea disgusts me, locking up people with personality disorders in case they kill somebody? What next? Locking up Muslims in case they blow somebody up? Locking up protesters?
Personally I don't see the bill as realistic either, not only is it so easily corrupted (and probably would be corrupted once it's passed), but it's also unethical, it's leading us towards a police state.
A great deal of personality disorders are also very hard to diagnose and imagine how much it'll cost the country in taxes to keep them behind bars.
I'm sorry, but I would be disgusted if a friend of mine was locked up because of a personality disorder, as long as they hadn't done anything. It's no better than how they used to throw homosexuals in to assylums or women suffering from 'nymphomania' (basically women who've had pre-marital sex or cheated). I mean jeeze, the latest killer was black... Let's figure out how many black people have killed somebody and then lock up all the black people. :rolleyes:
Personally the idea disgusts me, locking up people with personality disorders in case they kill somebody? What next? Locking up Muslims in case they blow somebody up? Locking up protesters?
Personally I don't see the bill as realistic either, not only is it so easily corrupted (and probably would be corrupted once it's passed), but it's also unethical, it's leading us towards a police state.
A great deal of personality disorders are also very hard to diagnose and imagine how much it'll cost the country in taxes to keep them behind bars.
I'm sorry, but I would be disgusted if a friend of mine was locked up because of a personality disorder, as long as they hadn't done anything. It's no better than how they used to throw homosexuals in to assylums or women suffering from 'nymphomania' (basically women who've had pre-marital sex or cheated). I mean jeeze, the latest killer was black... Let's figure out how many black people have killed somebody and then lock up all the black people. :rolleyes:
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Its not really that much of an extention of what happens already, they can section you now, but I'm not sure how much easier it will be with this new law.
Its also self defeating because it will mean people will be less willing to come forward for help.
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Not a good idea. But our Prime Minister thinks civil liberties arguments are "outdated" and "old-fashioned", so what can you expect?
It's a tiny problem though and not something that should be delt with using new laws; new proceedures and methods to handle personality disorders would be more appropriate.
What concerns me is just how vague the terms of the act really are. How do you define a "serious" danger to yourself or others? It wouldn't take much to make me fall in that category, even now.
What does BPD do? That is if it's not too much of a personal question. Does it make people aggressive because my friend wasn't.
Makes your self-worth and sense of place in the world fluctuate wildly between good and bad. It's quite unsettling, really.
I was never bad enough to be sectioned or anything, but I did get bumped right up an NHS queue :chin:
The young lady in the unit sometimes seemed like she needed a place... if that makes sense. You know, like a reason to fit in... almost like at times something was missing. Well that's how it's been explained.
On a tangent, did you find the NHS any good in helping you? Also... If you're recovered then it means even more that the government would be making a mistake in imprisoning people because they could be given help too.
people without personality disorders kill people too. where do we draw the line? not to mention that 'personality disorder' covers a huge range of conditions and severities. how violent do they have to be? history of attacks? threats? short temper?
doesn't sit well with me, it has to be said.
The NHS were excellent in helping me. My doctor was very helpful, she helped me and made sure I looked after my SH wounds properly, she ensured I got referred to the proper unit, and she took me seriously. After I'd been assessed by the unit she said it'd be 18 months wait, but she told me she'd try everything to move me up the queue, and I got into another therapy place in a few weeks.
I've just stopped seeing my therapist now, after three hours a week for three years, although it had reduced gradually since the autumn because I was ready to move on from it. And its done me so much good.
I think treatment is important for people, but I don't think locking them up works. care in the community, much maligned as it is, is how it should be done- CitC only fails because it is institutionally impossible to give the ill the community they need to get care.
and heres me thinking we had already gone down that road.
On a point of information though, the term 'personality disorder' covers a wide range of diagnoses and a wide range of behaviours. I don't think we're talking about locking up those with a personality disorder, but those who are deemed to be potentially dangerous.
The trouble with some of the more extreme personality disorders is that there is often no definitive treatment or cure, and so it is not simple to detain these people under the current mental health act.
Im with you, isn't that what House Arrest is?