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So, as far as my understanding goes:
Left, populated by the 'lefties' are more accurately described as 'liberalists'; the wish to promote social freedoms and see people more liberated, often they wish to promote equity in society and often support socilist-esque agendas. (by this, I mean favouring working class people, not strictly communism etc)
Right, is usually to do with conservatism, they wish to keep things steady as they are, no sudden changes. It says people should be 'monitored' to an extent, to keep people in line for the benefit of society.
Left and Right, are more or less mutually exclusive. You can't say everyone should have privacy and should have their phone lines tapped - it's a contradiction. However, onto my main point.
Why, so often, especially on here, are they interpereted wrongly, or extremely. What I mean - lots of people on here are left orientated and wish people to have more control over their lives, but someone who disagrees with that will label them all communists. Someone on the right who thinks its better the police infiltrate things with the ideology 'you shouldn't be worried if you've got nothing to hide' has a perfectly valid viewpoint; but more often than not they are labelled 'racist'. I think these are both stigmas attatched to the left and right which are completely inaccurate, yet even people on here who seem to be knowledgeable throw them around.
If someone thinks immigrants should be checked out and there should be quotas - that doesn't mean they're racist. It means they think the state should have more power. Same for the left. I lean slightly towards the left personally, but take offense when called a communist. When people think of communism they more often than not think of Stalinism, which is very authoritarian.
But anyway, why can't people just accept that people are slightly right or slightly left, why does everyone have to be extreme. Either extreme is dangerous, as history has shown repeatedly.
Left, populated by the 'lefties' are more accurately described as 'liberalists'; the wish to promote social freedoms and see people more liberated, often they wish to promote equity in society and often support socilist-esque agendas. (by this, I mean favouring working class people, not strictly communism etc)
Right, is usually to do with conservatism, they wish to keep things steady as they are, no sudden changes. It says people should be 'monitored' to an extent, to keep people in line for the benefit of society.
Left and Right, are more or less mutually exclusive. You can't say everyone should have privacy and should have their phone lines tapped - it's a contradiction. However, onto my main point.
Why, so often, especially on here, are they interpereted wrongly, or extremely. What I mean - lots of people on here are left orientated and wish people to have more control over their lives, but someone who disagrees with that will label them all communists. Someone on the right who thinks its better the police infiltrate things with the ideology 'you shouldn't be worried if you've got nothing to hide' has a perfectly valid viewpoint; but more often than not they are labelled 'racist'. I think these are both stigmas attatched to the left and right which are completely inaccurate, yet even people on here who seem to be knowledgeable throw them around.
If someone thinks immigrants should be checked out and there should be quotas - that doesn't mean they're racist. It means they think the state should have more power. Same for the left. I lean slightly towards the left personally, but take offense when called a communist. When people think of communism they more often than not think of Stalinism, which is very authoritarian.
But anyway, why can't people just accept that people are slightly right or slightly left, why does everyone have to be extreme. Either extreme is dangerous, as history has shown repeatedly.
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In what way are the "hard left" racist? And do you mean authoritarian or libertarian left?
Click on the link and it explains it all - theres even a little test you can take to see where you are - it says that I am "libertarian left"
What do you reckon?
right is wrong.
simple realy.
and the last time someone did that to me, i asked them to put it on the wrong way around, so they drew a L on my left hand but upside down
Left isn't exactally what i'd call pro freedom... Lenin had a good quote on that if anyone cares. Its more to do with the average working joe. Right is Elitist. Liberals are freedom.
Then there are those who don't give a damn and are enslaved by all! :P
Language isn't experience, don't confuse the two.
ignorance realy can be bliss.
you are one of the blessed.
nahhh!
Let us not forget that politics is the art of the possible and pragmatism often over-rides principle.
sorry that was mean, and was a very valid point nonetheless, with quite a nice conclusion
i've seen you use the term 'lefties' quite a bit lately, especially to those opposing your opinions - does this mean that you are rather simplistic also :chin: