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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Who actually likes these pricks? They tryna act all civilised but it's known that their a bunch of racist dickheads ... personally i'd love to fight every single one and beat them down :) but hey thats just me.

Fuck Ken Livingstone.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Cornelis wrote:
    personally i'd love to fight every single one and beat them down :)
    Best of luck to you! (If you go round getting into fights, you might need it.)

    One of the unpleasant things about the BNP is a history of thuggery.

    They are not a major party. They will win no seats at all in the coming election. If their minor successes in local elections here and there bother you, combat them politically (by campaigning for whichever party you think is best) - instead of talking of being a better thug than the BNPers are.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Second that. My first missus was Asian and at times just the general racism (not least from BOTH our families) made me want to scream.

    I despise anyone who wants to use force on others....and those with this kind of irrational sloping forehead mentality I have no time for whatsoever.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Cornelis wrote:
    Who actually likes these pricks? They tryna act all civilised but it's known that their a bunch of racist dickheads ... personally i'd love to fight every single one and beat them down :) but hey thats just me.

    Fuck Ken Livingstone.
    Why turn it into a physical thing, use your brains not your fists.

    The Nazi-BNP is a bunch of racist thugs, similiar in temperament and attitude to their equivalent on the Left.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The BNP are a political party whether people like it or not.

    Why not start to address the issues of why people vote for them instead of just flying the nazi tag around which probably worked agaisnt the NF in the 70's but carries no clout today in 2005.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The BNP are a bunch of Nazi racist thugs - THEY are the nasty party. They have no saving graces whatsoever but through Griffin have a thin veneer of so-called "respectability" (not really the right word)

    The problem as I see it is that they are addressing certain issues that concern people, (eg immigartion), and if the mainstream parties refuse to deal openly with these issues then they're playing right into the hands of the BNP! The last thing we want is BNP representation at any level in our body politic, but democratically we cannot stop it if the voting public turn to them in utter frustration - we must not let this happen.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Cornelis wrote:

    Fuck Ken Livingstone.
    :D:D:D
    i'm guessing you realy realy don't like him!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tommo100 wrote:
    The BNP are a political party whether people like it or not.

    Why not start to address the issues of why people vote for them instead of just flying the nazi tag around which probably worked agaisnt the NF in the 70's but carries no clout today in 2005.

    I am guessing most people vote for them because they are 'concerned' about immigration etc and/or they are outright racists.

    On the immigration front both the main parties are taking what I persoanlly would consider to be avery 'tough' stance anyhow, anything further would be completely ridiculous (as if the current policy isn't already) Thus there is no way to deal with their 'concerns'.

    What woukld be usefukl would be public information campaigns to crush the xenophobic myths that surround the issues of immigartion and which pass for fatc for so many people.........
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Ken... gives the left a big bad name. Yeah, you get Leftist activist too, but they tend to start revolutions and the what-not. People in the UK are to lazy for that.

    The BNP are the biggest joke of a Political party the UK has other than Sin Fein. (sp?). Sadly people beleive their bollocks thanks to papers like the Daily Nazi, The Scum, etc.

    Nazi? No. Not really, I must say. More... Facistic. Haha, Mussolini's Italy sucked. I hope the UK doesn't go that way.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tommo100 wrote:
    The BNP are a political party whether people like it or not.

    Why not start to address the issues of why people vote for them instead of just flying the nazi tag around which probably worked agaisnt the NF in the 70's but carries no clout today in 2005.

    I agree. That's why I quite like this lot www.iwca.info
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Really opened my eyes there Blagsta.

    That site was a joy to read, was good to see a left wing party actually taking about issues regarding immigration and race and not just passing off the same old bullshit that some others do.

    The ANL and SWP could learn a lot from the guys running that site :thumb:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yep, you're right. The SWP and ANL are rightly criticised for their "we know best" stance.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its when they start sending leaflets through the letterboxes that it really annoys me. There are black and Asian families on my street and these racist scum bags are posting their poison through their letter boxes!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Blagsta wrote:
    I agree. That's why I quite like this lot www.iwca.info
    Nothing more than left-wing working class agitators who are out for "class warfare" and the return of a centralised Socialist State. They resent the democratic state, have in reality nothing but contempt for the working class, although they pretend otherwise, and resent those who have power and money.
    In my book they're not much better than the BNP without the racists overtones!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You haven't actually read it have you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think I'll stick with Green.

    I've yet to see an intelligent arguement from the BNP about immigration.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    The BNP are the biggest joke of a Political party the UK has other than Sin Fein. (sp?). Sadly people beleive their bollocks thanks to papers like the Daily Nazi, The Scum, etc.

    Nazi? No. Not really, I must say. More... Facistic. Haha, Mussolini's Italy sucked. I hope the UK doesn't go that way.
    What innane juvenile rubbish!
    Giving popular daily newspapers inappropriate titles (ha ha ha), saying the BNP isn't Nazi-like, "Mussolini's Italy sucked" - a bit more than that sonny boy!!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Can someone translate please.
    Rich Kid wrote:
    What innane juvenile rubbish!
    Giving popular daily newspapers inappropriate titles (ha ha ha), saying the BNP isn't Nazi-like, "Mussolini's Italy sucked" - a bit more than that sonny boy!!!

    :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Cornelis wrote:
    Who actually likes these pricks? They tryna act all civilised but it's known that their a bunch of racist dickheads ... personally i'd love to fight every single one and beat them down :) but hey thats just me.

    Fuck Ken Livingstone.

    lmfao...so Ken is BNP.

    Yer havin' a larf?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rich Kid wrote:

    The Nazi-BNP is a bunch of racist thugs, similiar in temperament and attitude to their equivalent on the Left.

    You need to get a grip.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    personally i'd love to fight every single one and beat them down

    I actually met a few BNP/NF guys while I boxed a few years back and believe me some of them you wouldnt want to mess with :no:

    I cant say who but there is a very famous northern boxer out there now who is a BNP supporter and didnt mind anybody knowing it when he was younger.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Tommo100 wrote:
    I actually met a few BNP/NF guys while I boxed a few years back and believe me some of them you wouldnt want to mess with :no:

    I cant say who but there is a very famous northern boxer out there now who is a BNP supporter and didnt mind anybody knowing it when he was younger.

    Thai kick boxer?

    I've drank with some BNP, some would be surprised by their intelligence.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    unfortunately in the town i am from there is quite a large BNP/NF following (i dont segregate) and we get quite a lot of propaganda through our door, none of it solicited, but reading it its easy to see how people with not much sense fall for it. its complete rubbish but people do get involved. to be honest its mainly teenagers and the 50-plus bracket. people inbetween seem wise to it, at least i know a lot of my friend and myself are.

    theres not much you can do in these situations. and the the ANL are just as bad, they are up for fighting just as much. so i'd stay away from them too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Spliffie wrote:

    I've drank with some BNP, some would be surprised by their intelligence.

    Reading some of the extreme right-wing revionism on WW2 I was actually suprised by the obvious intelligence of some of the writers, and ability to thread together a cogent argument.

    OK their conclusions were complete bollocks and relied on some very dubious sources.

    No-one ever said being an extremist you had to be stupid...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Spliffie wrote:
    You need to get a grip.
    On what my friend?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thai kick boxer?, I've drank with some BNP, some would be surprised by their intelligence.

    No mate welterweight boxer, Im not saying anymore though as I will respect his privacy. He is quite famous though and has boxed on Sky a few times, I fought him at a business convention in Witton and he gave me a right caning.

    I suppose a lot more BNP will be more intellegent now because they have brances at universitys etc and I think Ive seen a few of them on TV giving interviews with law degrees etc. Just proves more that you have to fight thier politics and not just tar them all with the nazi boot boy image as it obviously isnt true anymore.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    The BNP are the biggest joke of a Political party the UK has other than Sin Fein.

    excuse me for being pedantic but why is sinn fein a joke party...have you any idea of what the party is, it's history, it's mandate or did you come to this decision cos you saw a few reports on T.V recently :chin:
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    Teh_GerbilTeh_Gerbil Posts: 13,332 Born on Earth, Raised by The Mix
    Well, I thought parties when they started to get involved with terrorism or criminal acts, the relevant associated people were meant to be thrown out?

    The history of a political party has no reflect on its current runnings. Can you say Labour are still socialist? Are the Lib Dems still liberal?

    I know what Sin Fein stands for, but they are making a mockery of the current system, by all rights they should have action taken agaisnt them. Would we let Al-Queada stand for election?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    Well, I thought parties when they started to get involved with terrorism or criminal acts, the relevant associated people were meant to be thrown out?

    The history of a political party has no reflect on its current runnings. Can you say Labour are still socialist? Are the Lib Dems still liberal?

    I know what Sin Fein stands for, but they are making a mockery of the current system, by all rights they should have action taken agaisnt them. Would we let Al-Queada stand for election?

    i can assure you that the majority of sinn fein members have no connections whatsoever with the IRA, years ago yes but the party has modernised itself, it's quite organised and effecient, it has a good mandate, not just "give ireland back to the irish" which is a popularised view, certain Sinn Fein representatives do have contacts with the IRA but act only as a go-between with the governments and isn't directly involved in any of the organisations activites (contrary to public opinion) so by this logic sinn fein are actually doing a favour for the system...if there was no sinn fein the IRA would still be bombing the streets, which is a lot worse than robberies and an odd murder which i'll not condone but is obviously more preferable...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Teh_Gerbil wrote:
    Well, I thought parties when they started to get involved with terrorism or criminal acts,

    Errrmm...the war in Iraq? Bloody Sunday?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Rich Kid wrote:
    On what my friend?

    You can't compare the thuggish elements on the far-right to the far-left.
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