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Myth?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Is it true that drinking 8 red bulls then having a paracetomol is the equivalent to taking speed?

ive not done speed, but i did do the above, and if speed is that crap...is it worth it?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru

    Drinking 8 redbulls will certainly fill you to the brim with caffeine, which will give you a lot of energy, but I don't know where the paracetemol comes in <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/confused.gif"&gt; . If you're drinking VR's or TVR's it'll produce some side effects with the alcohol which probably ain't gonna be too good for you, binge drinking isn't very good for your kidneys or liver. Many's the time I've woken up with a pain in the kidneys after a TVR night <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/frown.gif"&gt;

    But the effect of drinking 8 redbulls won't be the same as speed, speed has a more intense "hit", makes you talk a mile a minute, gives you immense energy to dance all night, can make you chew continuously, will keep you up all night with wild staring eyes <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/eek.gif"&gt; , will drain you completely the next day, can make you paranoid, will make you want to do 10 things at once etc, etc.

    Some people love the speed experience (like me!!) others hate it as it doesn't really effect your mood, just your metabolism. I used to make up my own capsules with a mix of base speed (v. powerful) and ground-down hash, a combination I shoudn't recommend but produced good effects for me at my favourite club.

    8 redbulls isn't the same as speed, but will give you some idea of the energy that speed gives you.


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Coca Cola used to have something in it that reacted to asprin that gave you a real srong buzz. This ingredient was then taken out quite a few years ago so don't even bother trying.

    MD Ithought you were totally anti-drugs or is that just the illegal ones. You seem to base what you will or wont do on wether it's illegall or not. If so you trust the autorties more than me.

    If you wanted to get a buzz like speed ,why not just do speed, coz at least you have more of a clue what it's going to do to you. Red Bull is bad for you in that quantity. There's a chemical called Taurine that fucks up your kidneys. As for mixing it with paracetomol or any other drug of any kind.


    Over the counter drugs can be just as dangerous when not used properly especialy when cocktails are taken.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Overdosing on caffine whether it be through red bull or pro-plus is not a good idea, just me I know all too well...

    Its not the same feeling as speed anyway, speed causes the brain to release atropine (spelling?) the bodies natural fight or fly chemical, caffine is indeed a stimulant but doesn't work alone the same lines as speed... so you won't get the same feeling...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Skive'n'Dive:

    MD Ithought you were totally anti-drugs or is that just the illegal ones. You seem to base what you will or wont do on wether it's illegall or not. If so you trust the autorties more than me.

    i dont base what i do on if its illegal or not, but there was some myth about doing 8 red bulls (quickly) and then taking a paracetomol to see if it's the same as speed. nobody wanted to do it, so i looked into it, saw there were no detremental effects from this and so had a go. i was just wondering if anyone had done the same... cuz if they had and could compare it to speed, then i would then know what speed is like

    im not curious to know what it is like, i merely did it to prove it could be done

    If you wanted to get a buzz like speed ,why not just do speed, coz at least you have more of a clue what it's going to do to you. Red Bull is bad for you in that quantity. There's a chemical called Taurine that fucks up your kidneys. As for mixing it with paracetomol or any other drug of any kind.

    the amount of taurine needed to screw up ur kidneys is highly excessiuve and a small binge of red bull is nowhere near enough

    i wasnt curious about the buzz, i was proving it could be done, cuz people were going on about it so much i got bored with them speculating


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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its nothing like speed, in my oppinion and I love speed so there u go <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/tongue.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Red Bull has killed people.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    roughly quoted: "drinking red bull in that quantity is bad for you.... just take speed"


    HOLY FUCK people!!!! what the fuck are we saying???!!!!!

    why take an energy drink when you can take a class a superdrug? fuxake, catch ourselves on!!! we can downplay the problems with drugs as much as we want, but let's never convince ourselves that these drugs are SAFE!!!!..
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Pacman:
    roughly quoted: "drinking red bull in that quantity is bad for you.... just take speed"


    HOLY FUCK people!!!! what the fuck are we saying???!!!!!

    why take an energy drink when you can take a class a superdrug? fuxake, catch ourselves on!!! we can downplay the problems with drugs as much as we want, but let's never convince ourselves that these drugs are SAFE!!!!..

    Who here has donwplayed drugs and said they were safe...or am I missing something???
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think that is aimed at me Lolly. I've never downplayed drugs. I just thought MD was being a bit hypocritical (sp?) considering a recent post he made which expressed his view that every drug user/dealer should be stuck on an island to die. Something along those lines anyway. MD dis you read that post about Red Bull in Anything Goes. You can look for it coz I can't be bothered. Red Bull is not really that safe. In moderation maybe but 8 cans maybe a bit much. Don't you think?

    No drug is safe. I'm not going to tell people they're safe but I think I'm entitled to express my opinion. I have the upmost respect for people that don't consume drugs!

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Skive'n'Dive:
    I think that is aimed at me Lolly. I've never downplayed drugs. I just thought MD was being a bit hypocritical (sp?) considering a recent post he made which expressed his view that every drug user/dealer should be stuck on an island to die. Something along those lines anyway. MD dis you read that post about Red Bull in Anything Goes. You can look for it coz I can't be bothered. Red Bull is not really that safe. In moderation maybe but 8 cans maybe a bit much. Don't you think?

    No drug is safe. I'm not going to tell people they're safe but I think I'm entitled to express my opinion. I have the upmost respect for people that don't consume drugs!


    ok, firstly the dealer thing was just to get a reaction...i dont care about drug users and dealers, they want to do it then fine but do it away from me and dont push it in2 my face etc cuz im not interested...and most dont

    secondly, it's not doing drugs. red bull isnt a drug. taking a paracetomol after 8 cans done in quick succession seems to be a pile of shite, 'cuz it did naff all

    it was just an observation



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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by MasterDevilish:
    it's not doing drugs. red bull isnt a drug. taking a paracetomol after 8 cans done in quick succession seems to be a pile of shite, 'cuz it did naff all

    I'm interested in how you can define it as NOT doing drugs, are caffine or taurine not drugs? It seems to me that your attitude is blocking realisation, just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it isn't a drug or indeed isn't dangerous...

    "I'm not a drug user but I'll take 8 cans of red bull and a paracetamol and see if I can get legally high..."

    If your so against doing something, why are you interested in finding out if other methods give similar effects? Or do you just enjoy coming in this forum to spark tempers?

    I personally don't have a problem with anyone posting any questions on anything and I'm sure the rest of the people here like Lolly and Skive agree with me, but you seem to come in here innocent at first and when we question your actions you turn it back round with smart comments.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Justin Credible:
    I'm interested in how you can define it as NOT doing drugs, are caffine or taurine not drugs? It seems to me that your attitude is blocking realisation, just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it isn't a drug or indeed isn't dangerous...

    do you actually know what a drug is? taurine is a substance, as is caffeine. neither can be defined as being drugs.

    caf·feine also caf·fein (k-fn, kfn, kf-n)
    n.
    A bitter white alkaloid, C8H10N4O2, often derived from tea or coffee and used in medicine chiefly as a mild stimulant and to treat certain kinds of headache.


    tau·rine2 (tôrn)
    n.
    A colorless crystalline substance, C2H7NO3S, formed by the hydrolysis of taurocholic acid and found in the fluids of the muscles and lungs of many animals.


    drug (drg)
    n.

    A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
    Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
    A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.

    is "a mild stimulant" actually a "drug"?

    "I'm not a drug user but I'll take 8 cans of red bull and a paracetamol and see if I can get legally high..."

    i dont take drugs and it doesn't give you a high...

    "i think a drug is any chemical substance that has an effect on the body so water - because it effects the osmotic pressure of the body - is now a drug" is what you've actually put across there

    If your so against doing something, why are you interested in finding out if other methods give similar effects? Or do you just enjoy coming in this forum to spark tempers?

    do you actually read what i put? i wasnt overly interested in what it did, it was more to get people to stop going on about it and as id looked into possible effects beforehand anyway i pretty much knew it shouldn't have the same effect - also due to tghe feeling of being bloated etc

    if this sparks your temper than perhaps you should find a longer fuse, it's merely a question. "has anyone done this" and "is it actually like speed". my observation was then "if it is like taking speed, i would say speed aint worth it"

    I personally don't have a problem with anyone posting any questions on anything and I'm sure the rest of the people here like Lolly and Skive agree with me, but you seem to come in here innocent at first and when we question your actions you turn it back round with smart comments.


    because of you actually read exactly what i say in the first place and dont take every damn thing the wrong way and come across with some kind of attack about me being a hypocrite, then i wouldnt have to reply with "smart comments". none of my comments are smart comments, they merely point out what im saying and it seems im always having to repeat everything i say in this forum anyway.

    to the original thread topic:

    Question: "Has anyone drunk 8 red bulls in a small time and then taken a paracetomol?"

    if answer NO, then why reply?

    if answer YES, then:

    "is it like taking speed?"

    if you havent taken speed, no need to reply

    if however you've taken speed AND done what i did with the red bulls then by all means help me answer my question

    it's not meant to be a dig at anyone, it's not meant to be smart, it's just a question.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Justin Credible:
    I'm interested in how you can define it as NOT doing drugs, are caffine or taurine not drugs? It seems to me that your attitude is blocking realisation, just because something isn't illegal doesn't mean it isn't a drug or indeed isn't dangerous...

    "I'm not a drug user but I'll take 8 cans of red bull and a paracetamol and see if I can get legally high..."

    If your so against doing something, why are you interested in finding out if other methods give similar effects? Or do you just enjoy coming in this forum to spark tempers?

    I personally don't have a problem with anyone posting any questions on anything and I'm sure the rest of the people here like Lolly and Skive agree with me, but you seem to come in here innocent at first and when we question your actions you turn it back round with smart comments.


    Bloody well said mate! And yes u r right, I agree with u <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/wink.gif"&gt;

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Could you count a mild stimulant as a drug? yes, it may be mild but its still a stimulant drug:

    Caffine: world's most popular drug - alkaloid - general cellular stimulant - causes 10% increase in metabolic rate - mimics feelings that the body produces when it releases adrenaline - approximate intake: drip-brewed coffee 146 mg, tea 20-50 mg, Dr. Pepper - 37-38 mg, NoDoz - 200 mg/dose. One gram (ca. 10 cups of coffee) can cause unpleasent side effects - can develop a tolerance - withdrawal. About 2 million lbs (900k kg) of pure caffeine is produced each year (much from decaf. coffee and tea) in the U.S., an equal amount is imported each year - ca. 3/4 used in soft drinks, the rest in headache and cold remedies.

    That description in my eyes sees caffine as a drug, I'd also like to point out that there are many places and people who deal with and are indeed caffine addicts, so in all respect and fairness I'd count it as a drug. Caffine with alcohol is dangerous, caffine masks the drunk effect so users don't quite know how much they've drunk, so red bull can indeed be dangerous.
    http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/diet.fitness/05/29/energy.drinks.02/

    Your mixing drugs, paracetamol (however mild and common it sounds) is still a drug and can have effects if mixed with others, thats why you often read on medicine packets "DON'T MIX WITH ALCOHOL", obviously they won't add additional comments such as "DON'T MIX WITH ILLICIT SUBSTANCES OR ENERGY DRINKS" as that would be plain daft.

    I don't have a short fulse and perhaps you've misinterpreted my message, I'm still carm and not getting worked up about everything. I am, the same as yourself, posting a question back to you... You do give the interpretation in this forum of being 'cocky' sometimes, I apologise if this is not the case. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;

    And as I answered earlier, no it doesn't feel like taking speed. <IMG alt="image" SRC="http://www.thesite.org/ubb/smile.gif"&gt;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Although I know it doesn't answer your question, I think one issue has been touched but not put forward excplicitly enough:

    It is effectively irrelevant whether it is legal or not, or whether it is classified as a drug or not. The main issue is that I would have thought that 8 cans of Red Bull mixed with Paracetamol are actually causing more damage to your health than speed would.

    I haven't tried speed, but I know oh so well the hangover caused by having a just couple cans of Red Bull on a night out (whether taken with our without alcohol). Red Bull is evil! ;-) Actually I think the version that we get in the UK is a weaker version than in some European countries but is still stronger than legally permitted to be sold in others....
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