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What no Budget thread?
BillieTheBot
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The 2005 Budget is here
What are people's opinions on this then?
I think it's a fairly balanced and decent budget. And so do the Tories, who have really struggled to find anything bad to say about it, and had to resort to the "you'll pay for this later" scaremongering warnings.
A few things have clearly done with the election in mind though. There will be no rise in fuel duty for instance- that has been delayed until the autumn, once the election is out of the way. But generally speaking it looks after families and pensioners quite well I thought...
What are people's opinions on this then?
I think it's a fairly balanced and decent budget. And so do the Tories, who have really struggled to find anything bad to say about it, and had to resort to the "you'll pay for this later" scaremongering warnings.
A few things have clearly done with the election in mind though. There will be no rise in fuel duty for instance- that has been delayed until the autumn, once the election is out of the way. But generally speaking it looks after families and pensioners quite well I thought...
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Same old same old, he keeps moving forwards in roughly the same direction, stability and growth, you cant fault him that much.
One thing that did annoy me though was that he withdrew a programme of giving pensioners lower pensions if they are in hospital for a year. Why? They are being given total bed and board, why should they get full pay? Thats just a minor gripe though.
I wonder how much he will actually gain from it though, it will just make bootlegging more profitable and more likely.
BTW Born Slippy: the tax on fags isn't actually an increase in tax, it's just in line with inflation. You know how £10 this year is worth slightly less next year, because people have more money than people can sell them stuff more or less, so prices go up, so what your money is worth actually goes down = inflation. People also get pay rises because of this, so in relative terms its practically the same
Thanks for that, now it would not surprise me if everything else on that list was not how it seems.
They do, but its only £30 a week now.
And that's after means testing. Yor parents combined earnings has to be below about £20,000 for you to be elligible for the EMA, and seeing as most middle class families earn more than that, then only a minority receive it
its only ever been £30 a week at most
my borough was a trial one, and for me it actually served a good purpose, meant i didnt have to work 20 hours a week on top of college like some people, when that will obviously affect an education if youre at college/6th form 25 hours a week already
id of liked to see some more money for teaching undergrad students since most universities still are going to run undergrad courses at a loss even with inscreased fees to students fees
The mind boggles. Kids are being paid to go to 6th form college?
£75 a week to turn up and get an education! Fuck me, i'm speechless.
Its better than the alternative, though it does send out a bad message.
You've lost me.
Better than what alternative, not paying them £75 for the privilege of recieving an education?
You don't think that paying children to receive an education is morally repugnant?
There are people all over the world who would give up everything to receive an education and here we are paying kids not to drop out. The Government is on this ridiculous drive at the moment to make sure that 80% of people in education see it through to degree level. Degree’s will be come worthless. The fact is that we need people in society to not take higher education paths and take more manually skilled jobs, otherwise there’s going to be the situation of too many people know how to manage a business and no one to do the work!
I’ve just found out that this scheme was introduced 2 years after I left 6th form college. There weren’t people dropping out of education left, right and centre at my college.
And by drop-out, what I meant was those leaving education at the age of 16, after doing GCSEs. Or maybe not. Some might have left with no qualifications.
Kids are always going to drop out of education at every level. Throwing money at it won’t solve that.
I’m aware of three lads that dropped out of my high school who are earning much more money doing plastering and plumbing that I am doing web development!
Unless you look at one motivating factor for dropping out - earning cash. The money gives these kids a little independance, somthing we earners take for granted. It's actually the reason I dropped out when I did.
that pleased me, cause i'm planning to buy a house this year, and on the kind of prices i'm looking at, the new lack of stamp duty will save me a tidy amount
Which is why I buy my baccy tax free.
I worked for my money while i was at college, strange as it may sound.
I also don't believe that money is the sole factor for dropping out of education. Lack of motivation and understanding of its importance are probably just as much to blame.
That is the rationale behind the EMA. It is a perfectly justifiable rationale.
so did i but ema meant i didnt have to work as many hours to support myself, such that itd be a detriment to my studies
I'm aware of cases like that myself. It certainly doesn't justify anything though. It is prefectly possible work almost full time and go to college. It's something i did myself.
Paying kids to attend college is the most ridiculous thing i've heard in a long while. You can justify it by saying that it makes life easy for people. You can't however justify it as a sound concept.
You're trying to tell me that £75 buys the silence of massively ignorant parents, thats insanity.
Why is it not a sound concept? It encourages people who would otherwise drop out of the education system to remain in education, and it allows the very poorest people a bit of extra financial help. What is not sound about that?
"But I worked so everyone else can!" is not a suitable counter-argument, for the record.
Detrimental to your studies, don't feed me that line. I was working 30 hour weeks while at college. I made the time for my studies. It's a question of commitment.