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tesco moves into new range....
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for those who are a bit broke next week
seriously though, there should be local monopoly laws cause like round this part of london, there are no small corner shops as they all got brought up by tesco, so are now all the same price, and the same crappy line of goods, when before you could talk to the owner, and maybe get some under the counter goods too
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but as i said to my sister, what if you buy ethical products from an unethical retailer? does that balance it our?
No, because the profits are going back into something nasty.
I didnt know that, who voted them that?
How very strange.
Tesco bought up a few chains of local convenience stores, mostly attached to petrol stations. Swapping one chain for another makes no difference; the co-op bought Alldays, but the corner shop in Durham is still the same (crap), whatever the logo on the doorway.
ewxcept the ownership is being consolidated into a few hands, so instead of being a cartel which it bltantly is, its now a monopoly
Tesco are successful because they are good. They will need to be less good as they own more things, but that's how things are.
I don't think Tesco are especially bad, iot's market forces in action. If companies such as WHSmith and Boots weren't such rip-off merchants then they wouldn't have seen their businesses go to the Tesco up the street.
What an adorable avatar! The best part of smal babies are their feet and thighs (if they're fat
Your own?
To be honest I think that one day the small business will be gone for good and everything will be these big companies. All cafés will be Starbucks & Café Nero, newsagents won't exist, small pubs will have been suffocated by Wetherspoons, barracuda, Revolution, Fat Cats ect
Asda is owned by Walmart.
Tesco is an English company...started in London.
Most big businesses are bastards. Their sole purpose is to make lots of money, which won't happen by them being nice to anyone.
I'm quite happy with Tesco being the country's most successful retailer. I find I'm more often greeted with a smile at a Tesco checkout than at an independent shop anyway. I never understand looking back with rosetinted specs to the days when you had to go to 8 different shops to get all your shopping. And at the end of the day, all businesses exist to make money, and if Tesco using its size to obtain bulk discounts which end up a saving for their customers then I see no problem.
they arent cheap though
for processed shit they are for anything that is real they arent that cheap
In an oligopoly they're not going to want to drastically reduce prices, or they'll start a price war, unless they're trying to 'kill off' some of the competition (i.e. what happened to safeway). So all the supermarkets will generally set their prices in line with the market leader.
Tesco makes so much money because it's big - economies of scale. When you do something big you cut costs, you can hire specialised managers who increase efficiency, cut better deals with people because they take you more seriously, and in the end just generally make lots of money.
There is a market failure involved with supermarkets though - a failure of competition. The prices will supposedly be set higher (and lead to underprovision of goods) than they should be since they're just trying to maximize profits. In reality, the economy of scale cuts tescos costs so much they can give things to you relatively cheaply - go into any butchers and they will charge you more.
Although at the end of the day, I would still like to live in a quaint little village where I know the baker and the butcher and the florist and all the other people by first name, and they know to give me the 'regular' order. But, that's just a dream - we're moving towards a world where most ordinary goods will be standardised - food, clothes, homes, etc etc etc
You might pay a premium for free parking outside the front door and everything being available 24 hours a day, or certainly 7 days a week. And people like to know that what they are buying is reliably consistent in quality (and conveniently packaged for their needs).
If you want to shop where you're on first name terms with the owner, good luck to you, but I'm happy living in a world where the supermarket is no.1 stop for food and household essentials. Food is beyond no one's means, even at Tesco.
I am interested to know where you find cheaper food than at Tesco though, other than a high street market.
When I goto Tesco, I know I'm getting quality goods, for 2/3s the price.
I can't afford to shop at a local shop out of charity I'm afraid.
The only time I'll use a local shop is if I want a REALLY nice piece of beef then I'll goto a farm shop.
oh i shop at supermarkets, but for example i normally go depending on wot on what i want
for vegetables i normally go local green grocers cause its cheaper and normally fresher, however as their range is limited to basic things i go sainsbury as well
i hardly buy processed food but when i do the only cheap places are supermarkets
if i ever buy soft drink i but it at a market near me that sells imported crap, cause its like £1 for 2 bottles of coke, however i normally buy fruit juice which i get from cheapest place which is sainsbury
might seem tedious but for real food, buying in bulk apart from rice pasta etc is usually a bad idea
they really arent cheap the supermarkets, especially how unscrupulous to farmers, which is why id like to see CAP removed so farmers sell their food at right price
And of course if those 'bulk discounts' mean killing off any farming in this country then thats all the better isnt it.
and the fact theyre effectively becoming a monopoly which in the long run benefits noone whatsoever, as any economics person can tell you
thats the thing, most butchers etc i know of, are actually cheaper than supermarkets
do you know the amount of waste caused by supermarkets due to customers who dont think theres something wrong with a wonky cucumber etc or a blemish on fruit or something
and treatment of farmers, now thats what makes them unethical, im not saying farmers are good people but they cant even sell their produce at the price it costs to make it, which owuld mainly be helped by reducing subsidy to 0% after a few years
We can open up the country to global competition and get our goods for the lowest price possible, or we can pay over the odds to subsidise our farmers. Farmers shouldn't need or expect charity to survive. People will always need to eat - and there will always be demand for food. If there are too many farms then yes some will be "killed off". If we want to preserve them to be the custodians of the countryside, which they often claim to be, then that is an entirely separate argument.
Before BSE, poor farmers were few and far between. Who is responsible for that? And foot and mouth for that matter...
It benefits Tesco shareholders..........
I totally agree, people get what they pay for, and if they want cheap milk then thats the way its got to be.
However, competition creates growth and better things for the consumer, small numbers of very powerful players in the market does not.
We must ensure this does not happen here. But it is already happening, albeit on a smaller scale.
The larger stores need a lot of building regulation planning so its harder for them to open those.
IME local shops are way friendlier, often way cheaper and actually serve the needs of the local community, rather than what some tosser executive in Surrey thinks we need. I dislike the bland homogenisation of neighbourhoods that happens when local shops get taken over by corporate chainstores.
Brixton.
Silly as well, when you can go to the brilliant Portuguese deli round the corner.