Cheating

Former Member

Im currently doing my A2's and at the moment im completing my business studies coursework. The class is only small and we have one so called "star pupil". The teachers think this person is the best and compare us all to him and tell us to look at his work to see what we should do. The onyl problem is that this work isnt his own (unbeknown to the teacher). Ive found this pupils project on the internet on a business site. The problem now is what should i do? Personally i want to report him to the school because i dont want my project compared to something he has copyied but the problem is that will they believe me as he is the "star pupil". Even if i do report him whats is going to do, all they will say is change the project which will mean that he'll change a few words and give it in.

If you were in this situation what would you do and is it the correct procedure to report him.

Former Member

Report him, if you don't want them to know it is you then send your teacher an anonymous letter.

Hell, I know someone who grassed someone up for forging their buspass when everyone else had to pay £40 a month... if it isn't fair don't put up with it.

JsT

Report it. In our Business class someone got an A and the rest of the class in comparisonj were downmarked (Mine down from a D by the teacher to a U), we reported him and he got disqualified and original grades reinstated.
Why should he be allowed to get away with it when it may effect everyone else.

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Report it, probably anonymously.

otherwise it will unfairly affect the grading curve.

Former Member

you can do it anon and put the site adress etc on it. most teachers would be too curious not to check. or the head has a responsibility to investigate said accusation if its reported.

Former Member

tis illegal to be honest!
i'd go mad if it was someone in my class and the teachers hadnt spotted it!

Former Member

I'd report the bugger straight up. But then I'm one for complaining if things arnt right anyway. I think my course manager is going to end up hating the sight of me:p

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you could report him, or you could go to another site and get one of your own, or even better, do both

Skive

Would grassing them up actually benifit you?

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turlough wrote:

you could report him, or you could go to another site and get one of your own, or even better, do both

haha thats funny - i agree

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BumbleBee wrote:

Hell, I know someone who grassed someone up for forging their buspass when everyone else had to pay £40 a month... if it isn't fair don't put up with it.

That was you!

I'm sorta with Skive. Yes, morality etc. But i'm not sure what benefits you're planning on getting out of it when, at the end of the day, your work is being compared to a better piece of work, therefore upping your standards.

She'll be found out in the end most likely anyway. Those coursework sites are shit ;p

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Skive wrote:

Would grassing them up actually benifit you?

no it wouldnt! you cant go grassin people up! he will come unstuck in time! just get on with your own life,his work may be false,but yours is more important,because its yours.teacher has to see that,and will i think!

JsT

DEANO MAC wrote:

no it wouldnt! you cant go grassin people up! he will come unstuck in time! just get on with your own life,his work may be false,but yours is more important,because its yours.teacher has to see that,and will i think!

Despite the fact that the cheat's work could well lower his own mark?

Former Member

Grass him up, if you think your work could be downgraded because of this.. cheating asshole tosser then of course do it,

morality, he's in the wrong by cheating, at the end of the day he's cheating himself, but still, Grass him up, should get thrown of the course.

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Hellfire wrote:

Grass him up, if you think your work could be downgraded because of this.. cheating asshole tosser then of course do it,

morality, he's in the wrong by cheating, at the end of the day he's cheating himself, but still, Grass him up, should get thrown of the course.

so you saying his work must be shit then? i,m sayin a good teacher should see the difference,grade "a" or not! why get involved like that?

Former Member

A teacher has to use the top grade as a mark, and then compare otherwork to that, then grade/downgrade the other work according to if it's as good as that..

Not fair.. no...

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Hellfire wrote:

A teacher has to use the top grade as a mark, and then compare otherwork to that, then grade/downgrade the other work according to if it's as good as that..

Not fair.. no...

what if his turns out to be the top grade? ...it could happen...that teacher.... needs slapping if it turns out the way he thinks it could! never mind ay

Former Member

no he doesn't.. the teacher does what he has too.. tbh he has to follow rules too

Former Member

plagiarism is a HUGE no-no in uni. 3 people were caught doing it on my course and thrown off immediately, no questions asked.

best that he learns this before he gets there, i say.

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We were threatened with academic misconduct in our physics labs if we wrote on loose sheets. He need to learn to follow the rules.

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kaffrin wrote:

plagiarism is a HUGE no-no in uni. 3 people were caught doing it on my course and thrown off immediately, no questions asked.

best that he learns this before he gets there, i say.

It wasnt at my uni, they were so desperate for students in one module they just gave the people caught a low pass and told them not to do it again. I was really angry and made a big stink about it.

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DEANO MAC wrote:

so you saying his work must be shit then? i,m sayin a good teacher should see the difference,grade "a" or not! why get involved like that?

Not how they mark coursework though I don't think-it is all relative to certain standards, and if the chearting person sets the standards all the others will seem poor in comparison.

Plagiarism is taken really seriously here too. It is a kick-offable offence here.

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Skive

bad seed wrote:

Report him. He's a thief.
He doesn't deserve a grade (decent or otherwise) if he doesn't do the work.

True :yes:
But nobody likes a grass.

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bad seed wrote:

Report him. He's a thief.
He doesn't deserve a grade (decent or otherwise) if he doesn't do the work.

:yes:
Plagiarism is theft. He shouldnt be doing the course if he is just going to copy his assignments. He wont learn anything, the rest of the class will get marked down and the teachers will have been duped.
Noone wins. Write an anonymous letter.

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I was sitting in an a-level exam and a girl I knew who was sat diagonally infront of me was cheating. She had a bit of paper under her desk. I was too busy thinking oh my god!, and also trying to get on with my work. By the time the exam had finished, it was too late as I had no proof. Also, it's her problem not mine.

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Check with your school they may be a member of www.turnitin.com an website on which you type in as little as a few words from a paper andd it instantly searches the net and shows you all matches that are similar. You should turn him in right now, I'm having the exact same problem that you are and am in the same delima. Show the teacher the website on ehich some of his work was done.

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yes, the whole grading curve will be affected, you should report him. why should you ave to suffer just because he cant be bothered doing his own work?

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i would only report him if he was seriously messing up my grades, thats quite obvious........otherwise it's not really your place, i have seen plenty of people cheating at uni but that's their choice.......

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I would report it, cheating is for losers.

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I'd report it too.