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what is the point
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what is the point in drugs anyway i mean u can just get high and relaxed on other things most of mates take weed n shite i dont see the point it sticks its rank and another thing once u start u carnt stop i mean once u start on the soft drugs u will be on the hard stuff like Es etc.
just think about it what would u do if drugs wasnt even thought of then u wud be stuck?
people who take drugs are weak and have no confidence stop and think im not gettin at u people who do take drugs but im warning u lot trust me i no what can happen :mad:
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just think about it what would u do if drugs wasnt even thought of then u wud be stuck?
people who take drugs are weak and have no confidence stop and think im not gettin at u people who do take drugs but im warning u lot trust me i no what can happen :mad:
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I don't feel weak and I feel as much confidence as you do, if not more.
Actually I feel so good here now chilling after a nice pills night... <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
I take drugs to make a fun time better, like if im going out. I dont do drugs when im bored, with the exception of weed.
If drugs werent thought of we wud be doing other stuff and never thinking abouyt drugs, so u cant really hold that agasint users.
But trust me I also know what it can happen!
i dont really have an opinion. If people want to use mind altering substances, then great. I drink alcohol, although not loads. If that can alter my mental awareness then why shouldn't someone smoke weed?
As with any intoxicating substance if it starts to affect other aspects of your life, then thats when the problems start, don't you agree?
Lizzie, every few weeks someone like yourself comes into the drugs forum and has a li'l rant about drug usage. It gets a bit tiresome after a while.
As far as I'm aware the majority of us on these boards who take drugs are recreational users. I personally take e about four times a year and it doesn't constitute a problem for me. I study, I hold down a good job, a fantastic realtionship and I'm a good friend and family member.
While we appreciate any concerns you have and realise you have your own opinions, we are happy in our lives and how we lead them and really aren't inviting criticism or comment.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...........
This include alcohol? If there was no alcohol there'd be a lot less violence, 30,000 people a year wouldn't die of alcohol related diseases and a lot less traffic accidents.
Thanx... <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
Are you serious... I thought we loved a good debate on this. I know I do. <IMG SRC="biggrin.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
[ 18-03-2002: Message edited by: 'Skive ]
With punctuation and proper sentences....
Thanks
But you're the master of the drugs forum and you really know your stuff! Me, I just like popping a few pills every now and then without any hassle...
I would say I'm laid back...others would say I'm lazy!
[ 18-03-2002: Message edited by: lovedup ]
Little story, I know a certain large built young man away from these boards who used to get banged up from fighting, treating girls like crap and got an ex pregnant... He was introduced to pills...
Since then, he has got slimmer, knuckled down at work, become friendlier and more open-minded, never been in trouble with the law since, treats girls with respect and has just recently got back with the mother of his son so they can try and make this work...
I'm not saying thats all drugs there, hardly... but they helped a damn site!
A problem is a problem when it affects others, your saying we don't know what happens to use?!? I for one do, I've been a heavy drug user, I've had a friend die and I've been in hospital several times... I know my limits and I'm not violent, I have a clean record and I'm also not stupid and have a respectable job... so why try and anyalise me and tell me whats right or wrong? I take drugs, big deal....
You mistake a lot of people in this forum for drop out non-informed misfits who just take drugs to 'look hard' or 'show off', maybe there are a few but then there are also some of us who know what we're talking about and can defend anything said on evidence, fact and personal experience... don't believe everything you hear in the news!
1) what is the point in anything ? what is the point in living ?
2) what else can you get high on ?
3) if drugs weren't thought of we'd never of tried them <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> so it wouldn't be a problem, however if drugs weren't invented we'd all be very sick people <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
4) utter bollocks <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> in fact i'd say they are strong enough and confident enough to make educated decisions on how they lead their own life without been some sort of puppet been controlled by government and media strings, you'll tend to find the average recreational drug user is a very confident, friendly, happy and a passive kind of person <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
if u take the hard stuff u could end up being addicted could even end up dead and like my mate in a mental home it aint cool it aint hard!!
i mean i can understand some people that have replied to this and have said that i dont make sense and that i dont no what im on about well i do ive seen it with friends and those of u that have said that u do it to give u confidence etc then im sorry but try doing something else like a new thing buy new clothes or something.....
dont take this the wrong way but i am an open minded person and im outspoken and ive tried to cover everyones points in ur replies if i havent and u would like a reply of me then email me plz and i will try and get back to u thanxs for ur time liz
I'm sorry to be rude but i find that story very hard to believe, if it is true then o.k he's one in a million <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
I can't imagine not drinking, smoking or using drugs <IMG SRC="confused.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> what the hell do you do with your life ?
Taking drugs isn't about confidence, its just about having fun pure and simple, yes they can be dangerous, but if your educated in their effects and dangers the risks are very minimal, so minimal your chances of death are massivly higher from your first nut than e, yet i bet you've tried a peanut <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
life comes and goes, you die, full stop. Take all the precautions you like, but were all heading the same place, on your death bed you'll regret the things you didn't do far more than the things you did do <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
Was he menatlly stable at the time? It sounds like an unlikely, if not impossible, thing to happen to me unless maybe he got a very dodgy pill, or one cut with something he didn't know about.
I know its not cool and I know its not hard and I also know that the chances of dying are so small that I am prepared to take that risk. Oh, and E is not exactly a 'hard' drug, whatever the government say. <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
I don't think anyone said they take it to give them confidence, they said they took it to have fun, and the confidence was more of an unexpected bonus. And buying clothes? Isn't that a bit shallow? I'd rather be confident about who I am than what I wear...
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So wot? I don't do any harm to other people. And I never ask for trouble when I take drugs! In fact, most of the recreational drug users are friendly people (I found it anyway) and going out with them are far more peaceful with those drunkies...
About the law thing, I personally insist that solely personal drug use should not be illegal at all. I hope one day thing will change... <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
Weed, E - Bad drug.
Alcohol - Taxable drug.
Weed, E - Non-taxable drug.
If we started again which 1 of those 3 would the government legalise?
Answers on a postcard!
Sorry for stating the bleedin' obvious but it seems there are some brainwashed bigots posting drivvel.
what trouble ? would you care to elaborate ?
and as already mentioned people break the 'law' all the time, underage drinking, going over the speed limit etc..... nobody sticks to the law unconditionally all the time. The fact some drugs are illegal is plain ridiculos, perhaps thats why the laws are broken so often ?
that is quite possibly one of the worst, most uninformed plain stupid post i've read here <IMG SRC="mad.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
Alcohol is blatantly not a good drug in any way shape or form and i find it hard to believe that any one with a brain cell would believe it to be the case <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
Weed & e are bad why in your opinion ? you must justify your odd opinions, or we'll believe you to be the moron you appear to be
As for the taxable part, well i don't think what you've put needs a comment really, i would expect better from a 3 year old than that <IMG SRC="rolleyes.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
trust a scouser
Errr i wud like to say E is not always a good drug, and neither is alcohol!!
Smoking is a bad drug coz its fuckin pointless. U inhale smoke for no rush no buzz no nuthing, other than to feed ur addiction.
E in the right doses is very fun and TOTALLY harmless.
Alcohol can also be fun, as long as u dont drink too much.
U shouldn't knock something unless u tried it. People come on ranting and raving about the evils of drugs, u WONT suddenly make people stop taking drugs, and u saying these things WONT make people stop and think for a second either!!
Unless something actually abd happens to these people they wont stop taking drugs. And i dont think u people should slate drugs unless u really know why people take them - COZ THEY R FUCKIN FUN!!!
Please explain the argument that alcohol is "bad" and E is "good" surely both have good and bad points, non?
yes they do, they are both drugs, they both damage your health, they both could kill you.
however the basic negatives done with, alcohol has extras <IMG SRC="frown.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> effects on society for a start all that violence etc.....
secondly the positives of pills are far far better than alcohol, its like comparing alcohol to caffeine <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
i know how biased we druggies sound, i was once upon a time very anti-drugs person, but you really can't begin to imagine how good pills make you feel, how much they change you as a person and for the better, alcohol never changed anyone really <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon">
you'd find it difficult to find somebody whose tried both who thinks alcohol to be the better drug, that is all you have to go on really, to form an opinion of which is best, without trying one is obviously going to give you an inaccurate one.
Exactly.
Argue all you want, but it's a personal choice. What you think is good or bad for you isn't what someone else thinks.
Welcome to The Site Supergirl!
It would be stupid to believe that these drugs are totally safe but I believe that we should be allowed to make a educated decision for ourselves based on true and accurate information. Take for instance the story of the person who took one E and went insane and tried to kill herself. The person who said that quite clearly has no understanding of the effects of ecstasy and she wouldn't have said it if she didn't believe that could happen. So why does she think that can happen? Where's the proper drug education in this country? ....half the reason people get into trouble with drugs is because it's so hard to distinguish betweeen the truth and the bollox.
We us the 'alcohol is legal so E should be' argument because we are just trying to get across to people the double standards that have been set. We all know alcohol is dangerous but it's accepted in society because it's widley used by people of many ages.
Ecstasy on the other hand which is primarily a youth drug, is not understood by the people who make it illegal. Despite the fact that it's far, far safer than drink, it remains illegal.
People that oppose the decriminalisation of cannabis use the argument that it is a gateway drug to harder drugs. I believe they are right, but only so long as cannabis is an illegal drug. The very fact that it's illegal puts users into contact with people selling other illegal substances. After all, why isn't alcohol a gateway drug? ...the answer is because it's legal and is sold from designated outlets and quality and saftey can be monitered by the authorities.
Another argument is that drugs cause crime. Again, this is partly because the drugs are illegal. The trafficking of illegal drugs is an obvious money maker for the big organised crime gangs and in my experience the average user of drugs such as E and weed do not steal to pay for their habit.
When it comes down to it, most of us know exactly what were doing and really don't need to be told that were stupid. We don't tell you to do drugs, stop telling us not to do them.
Exactly, but why not make weed & e legal and therefore taxable ? it would generate extra income for the government which to be fair is neccessary at present, the extra tax gained from weed would be massive <IMG SRC="wink.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> And although people claim they would grow it, i doubt it <IMG SRC="smile.gif" border="0" ALT="icon"> people generally don't make their own alcohol or tobacco even though its possible.
There is a possibility no extra cash would be gained through tax alone over all as peoples spending would be re-distributed, and e is condiderably cheaper than drink, that said reduced costs for the nhs, emergency services & insurance claims (people do some crazy damage when pissed) would balance it all out long term.
The only thing that worries me about legalisation & taxation of recreational drugs is that people will go wild and do damage to themselves, there is no doubt if you don't play safe you'll end up in trouble, such a scheme would have to be introduced after a comprhensive education program, not just for schools but for adults as well, how this could be implemented i don't know.