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Crackdown Looms For Magic Mushrooms
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So it looks as though the governement are going to make fresh mushies illegal, we all knew it would come eventually.
It's a disgrace, these fungi grow naturally and our government says they have the right to deprive us of these things.. just like cannabis
Here's the link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4105883.stm
It's a disgrace, these fungi grow naturally and our government says they have the right to deprive us of these things.. just like cannabis
Here's the link http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4105883.stm
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The people who are buying magic mushrooms these days are teachers, doctors, lawyers. There are 60-year-old customers
There's a huge market out there and this will just drive it underground and into the arms of shady operators," he said.
DrugScope said most retailers had been self-regulating by refusing to sell magic mushrooms to under-18s, advising customers on safe doses and warning against mixing them with other drugs such as alcohol.
so ...no strain on the medical services since the use of these substances rapidly spread.
no connection to crime ...but still they have to fucking interfere!
people will be prosecuted ...fined imprissoned but ...opeople will still keep eating these things like they did for the last thousand generations before them ...how the fuck do we get these idiots off our backs?
I haven't ate any mushrooms in 7 months now so i'll have to get around to getting some before this now.
i think all political partys need to take note of how the govenment is alienating itself from the public.....
How the fuck are magic mushrooms going to reduce alcohol consumption??
Magic mushrooms don't benefit pyschological health you fool, pyschedelics can help open up people's minds to an extent, but fuck them up equally.
Quit trying to be funny btw, it ain't happening.
Pyschedelics can open your mind, no doubt about that, but it's not a party drug, not something you'd take to wind down on a weekend, no no no.
People get drunk because it's sociable - something mushrooms aren't.
as much as i love my beer, that one was made me laugh.
fuck phet forever, or untill next weekend, i can smell a nasty comer downer
just cos that's your experience with alcohol doesn't mean other people can't be sensible with it :rolleyes:
one thing that annoys me about mushrooms is people who go on about the spiritual hippy shit that it seems to egt lumped with.
had enough mind opening experiences, i just do them to have fun and see and hear pretty things and laugh lots.
Though they wont ban the consumption of fresh mushrooms or include possession into the Misuse of Drugs Act because that would make them growing on land a troublesome issue.
They will include the sale of 'intoxicating' mushrooms into the statutes and therefore you wont be able to buy them.
This will not effect the sale of grow kits, or effect people picking them.
Personally I think this is perhaps a good move, it will make people who want to do them go to a bit more effort and will make sure they know what they are doing.
Booze or shrooms, it's your prerogative.
Personally I'd agree alcohol is shite, i only really drink booze to supplement coke...on it's own, i really can't be bothered.
But...with alcohol you're not going to fuck your mind up, you're not going to sit in a corner terrified you're going to die.
Pyschedelics should be treated with caution...they're definately not a substitute for alcohol.
they have also been used in psychiatry very sucsessfuly.
Doesn't mean they're a potential subsitute for alcohol tho', recreationally speaking.
I can fully understand how pyschedelics (especially cannabis) can help alcoholics etc, but in terms of recreation, alcohol has the least strings attached.
Stimulation is critical when on 'shrooms.
Pyschedelics make you prone to fear because of ego loss...you're no longer properly in control of your situation, you're thinking on an abstractly deep (or deeply abstract, depends how you view it) level...
It's just a drug which needs to be treated with some caution, it's not just a straightforward release like alcohol, thats what i'm saying.
The Government have weighed up the costs & benefits of no regulation, prohibition and regulation in the Drugs Bill Regulatory Impact Assessment. They don't follow any Government guidance. Plenty is happening. Transform will lobby against it.
More details at http://members.aol.com/paladcampaign/mushrooms.htm
Its a good opportunity to attack the Government's cost-benefit assessment of prohibition v regulation. What do you think?
Duncan Cameron
Parents Against Lethal Addictive Drugs
www.palad.org.uk
They seem to hold a bit of sway though.
Hope i don't miss out on them, but if i do i'm sure they'll go underground and become available on the streets from your local trusted dealer.
So there's probably a few months before anything changes.
Yes, HM Treasury stands to lose all the tax they currently receive.
Duncan
I've always heard that actually banning the mushrooms themselves is nigh on impossible because of them growing naturally. This could well lead to 'production of an illegal drug with the intent to supply' charges for farmers who just happened to have them naturally.
Now supply of them is another matter altogether, last time I heard anything supply was probably going to be illegal.
Duncan
How are they planning to word the law? The problem is the case law presidence, in that case law says that fresh mushrooms are legal.
I think you are mistaken when you say alcohol is a 'straightfoward release', it is equally as harmful as a whole range of recreational drugs.
The difference as I see it is that alcohol is legal, the other drugs are not - is that what you meant by 'straightforward'?
Alcohol safer than mushrooms? Absolutely...
This letter to newspapers describes how we see the situation:
The Government's Drugs Bill reinforces the institutionalised discrimination against minorities who consume or trade non-traditional drugs. While suppliers of alcohol to young people now face an on-the-spot fine of £80, suppliers of fresh magic mushrooms to consenting adults will soon face life imprisonment.
It is a fact that ninety percent of adults regularly take stimulant and intoxicant drugs to alter mood for non-medical reasons: caffeine and alcohol. By law our children are correctly taught that alcohol, tobacco and caffeine are drugs. Little wonder so many young people dismiss the Government's view that 'drugs are harmful and no one should take them' as hypocritical and discriminatory.
The Government continues to deny non-traditional drug consumers and traders equal rights and opportunities on the basis that these drugs are harmful but they provide no evidence that they are any more harmful than the traditional drugs accepted by society. Indeed evidence suggests that magic mushrooms are considerably safer than alcohol. A European Union risk assessment of magic mushrooms states "the risk for the public health is therefore estimated as very low" while the World Health Organisation points out that 55,000 young people are killed by alcohol every year in Europe.
Policy based on tradition rather than evidence underlies all institutionalised discrimination. We no longer accept sexism and racism so why do we continue to accept drug discrimination?
Duncan
Duncan
Duncan, do you have a link to that letter you quoted above? I couldn't find it after a quick search on the PALAD website.
That's on our new website, under construction but full of better stuff. That page details various mushroom campaigns & all background info gathered so far.
Duncan
Diamorphine for example is stupidly harmless physically if taken safely, but can be very dangerous.
Alcohol in small doses actually seems to be good for adults, cutting the risk of heart attacks.