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farmer in scotland gets around scottish fox hunting laws
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4083361.stm
he done it as 'pest control' as under scottish law you can get away with it as long as the dogs dont kill the fox, and the fox is shot, so someone thought he was hunting and got him arrested and cleared
so in scotland if you flush out the foxes with 2 hounds, you can shoot them
strangely 30% more foxes have been killed since scotland implemented the ban, and i thought hunting with hounds only was the best way, and what about the job losses :rolleyes:
he done it as 'pest control' as under scottish law you can get away with it as long as the dogs dont kill the fox, and the fox is shot, so someone thought he was hunting and got him arrested and cleared
so in scotland if you flush out the foxes with 2 hounds, you can shoot them
strangely 30% more foxes have been killed since scotland implemented the ban, and i thought hunting with hounds only was the best way, and what about the job losses :rolleyes:
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animals against animals was to horrible but ...machines bullets and poisons are ok in this fucking mad world.
what chance does the fox have against poison?
it inst about that, its that usinbg hounds to hunt is the cruelist way, so strangely using dogs to flush them out and then shooting them works better
and all the pro hunt people in scotland were like "oh fox numbers will increase loads" wen theyre obviously wrong
a cleaner kil yes, hurting a fox and chasing it todeath is the cruelty
it was more of a social event than a pest control method, so it was cruel and uneffective
Yes, now we must use poisons and snares - both lovely deaths.
You mean like the RSPCA?
Completely humane.
As anyone who lives in the country and has lost cats to them will tell you :yes:
they have never lived in a house with people and it would be impossible to get them to. they are not house trained and cuddly.
And incidentally, this makes all comparisons with the RSPCA pointless Kermit. I'm not aware of the RSPCA breeding dogs on purpose for fun purposes only to put them down a bit later.
Hunting with dogs is a pastime, a nice little entertainment for the participants.
Arguably the single biggest load a bollocks about the pro-hunt lobby is their claims that they're doing it as "a service" or "for the good" of the countryside.
They do it because they fucking enjoy climbing on a horse, chasing a fox and seeing it torn to pieces. No more, no less.
the truth is ...no one realy gives a fuck about the fox ...it's simple class politics.
just saw your above reply ...retirement homes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we can't even provide decent retirement for many of our people and now you want retirement homes for fucking animals!!!!
peoples priorities are completely out the window.
The bottom line is: whereas there has always been a relationship in history between men and working animals, breeding and using them for fun is simply not acceptable.
Dogs and foxes are not ours to kill for fucking pleasure.
And while we're at it, the countryside and its contents don't belong to farmers, residents, huntsmen or any other folk. The countryside does not belong to anyone. I keep getting the impression the pro-hunt lobby would have us believe that "they are the countryside". They're not. The countryside has no owner, other than the nation of Great Britain itself.
Who manages it though?
Perhaps some people have other perceptions but to me the countryside means this
or this
but certainly not this
with all respect aladdin ...people like ME ...are looking after and changing and maintaining the countryside.
the government don't give a toss about the place.
it's business as usual i'm afraid ...meaning economics run the countryside just like they run your big city ...the way to make money out here is from the land and animals ...i know thats alien to you city people but how the fuck do you think we survive out here ...cos the government agencies and towns folk tell us what we can and cannot do?
The countryside is more than just a pretty view.
I've grown up working on farms and estates and without them there would be no countryside - and they're managed by the people who have to earn a living from them.
As said before this ban hasn't done the foxed any favours. There are plenty of other ways to kill a fox - most of them even more unpleasant.
I fail to see why people care about it so much. I know I couldn’t give a toss. I don’t live in the countryside and I have to say I don’t have this urge that some people have in the city to force their own values on countryside folk.
And sure fox hunting isn’t very nice but how many of those that oppose it eat eggs? Most eggs sold in this country are not free range sadly... What about meat? The vast majority of meat is from animals who suffered extremely poor conditions. Only a very small number of people eat organic meat from grass-fed animals treated humanely.
Anyway fox hunting had nothing to do with the animals. If most fox hunters were Labour voters the government would have never put this through...Although I wouldn't put it past them. They want to ban smoking in public places, ban smacking, ban religious jokes, ban fast food ads and if the animal rights wackos have their way horse racing, dog racing, kosher meat and halal meat will also be banned...What ever happened to minding your own business and not interfering in other people's affairs?
as does breeding all manner of creatures for all manner of purposes.
some dog men ...in fact most dog men...won't only loose their job but their home as well.
you wear leather and eat meat no doubt ...all produced in thecountryside that you seem to think should just be a pretty place!
the countryside is about blood and toil.
you seem to think the countryside is some tourist retreat full stop.