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Tube workers to get 52 days holiday a year
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Omg what is going on here these overpaid glorified bus drivers are getting so many good deals whilst nurses and teachers are still at the bottom the governments priority list.
I worked out that this amount of holiday equates to 20% of the working year off on holiday! (based on 5 days a week)
Not only this but there hours are now being cut down to 35 hours a week. I cant beleive the government or commuters can except this seeing as tho tube drivers earn over £30,000 a year. part of this new deal means the tube runs 24 hours on new years eve and we have an extra 1 hour on fridays and saturdays.
This dont cut it when im paying over the odds for an antiquated travel system thats always packed and breaking down. Whilst teachers live on the breadline
Link for article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4036061.stm
I worked out that this amount of holiday equates to 20% of the working year off on holiday! (based on 5 days a week)
Not only this but there hours are now being cut down to 35 hours a week. I cant beleive the government or commuters can except this seeing as tho tube drivers earn over £30,000 a year. part of this new deal means the tube runs 24 hours on new years eve and we have an extra 1 hour on fridays and saturdays.
This dont cut it when im paying over the odds for an antiquated travel system thats always packed and breaking down. Whilst teachers live on the breadline
Link for article http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4036061.stm
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And it helps to have a union that has no qualms about bringing London to a standstill whenever its members fancy a day off.
The bit at the bottom about Operation Cyprus was interesting. Who'd have thought that having extra police on duty on the Tube would cut crime? :rolleyes:
To be honest I'm much more concerned with the Tube being run for profit and with commuters' fees ending up in the pockets of private companies than with tube drivers getting a good holiday deal.
I also find it odd that tube drivers are paid so much more than bus drivers. Bus drivers have to put up with London traffic, deal with rude customers and I can’t help feel that driving a double-decker bus (or one of those stupid bendy buses) is harder work than pushing a lever.
The fact is tube drivers can hold LU to ransom. The mere threat of a strike drives anyone into panic, the tube drivers know they can bring London to a standstill and they’ll keep doing it until someone has the bottle to stand up to them and tell them to f**k off next time they want a raise.
Er maybe…but there are a lot more suicides on the roads than on the tube. But yeah, you’re right that’s a very grim aspect of tube/train drivers jobs. For the unlucky few that experience that it must be absolutely awful.
So sure, there are aspects of tube drivers jobs that are not very nice. But the same applies for paramedics, nurses and firemen who all get paid a lot less than tube drivers...
Did you support the firefighters strike a couple of years ago?
And considering the servicemen covering for the striking firemen were already on less pay than the firemen without any rise it did seem a bit out of order for them to ask for 40%.
So I guess my answer is no I didn’t support the strike but I did support them getting 10 or 15% rise with no changes to their working practices.
The drivers are the ones who drive the trains, often work split shifts that fuck up their whole days, have to deal with suicides (which can be a most traumatic experience, and which sadly occurs rather frequently) and bear the full responsibility for the success of the operation- as opposed to the greedy, good-for-nothing fat cat greedy scumbag bosses.
When we see the Tube returned to public hands and its board of directors earn a modest five-figure salary like the rest of us mortals, you can come to me and discuss the 'perks' Tube drivers enjoy.
a fucking monkey could do the job ...in fact guess what ...so could a microchip ...
Doctors are now subject to the European working time directive, which has meant changes to working practices, rest periods and pay. Doctors have no choice but to accept these changes (most of which are desirable, but not all) because doctors could never strike, or even work to rule.
And then you get tube drivers and firemen striking because they don't want to change their working practices. In the case of firemen the proposed changes could only have benefitted the public and possibly saved lives. But no, better pay with status quo is what they got. It beggars belief sometimes.
It is supply and demand unfortunately, so they get paid what they are 'worth' thats how it works.
Doesnt mean its likeable and it certainly doesnt mean their union is nice either. Bob Crowe should be strung up.
The same system and principle that allows for still-spotty, wet-behind-the-ears young IT experts earn 30 or 40K per year, or high flying CEOs 200K per year.
Since I haven't heard many of you complaining about the disproportionate wages CEOs and top level managers earn, are we suggesting here that only white collar City boys can benefit from our wonderful capitalist job market system?
In other words, why no outrage that directors earn many times more than poor long suffering doctors and nurses? Why single out tube drivers? Shouldn't we ALL be cutting down our wages to be on a par with doctors and nurses?
I dont have to like it, but I do think its how things should work.
More than anything I dont like is because of their union, who I think has put members interest significantly above safety issues. That issue with the drinking staff and going on strike was a classic example.
the PPP was rather unnecessery though, and there were so few bidders, it was effectively no point having a bidding process...
Yes, the PPP is a bad joke, I am against that. Services such as transport should really only ever be in Public ownership.
But thats not really the issue.
Nurses who are grade G or above earn quite a hefty wage (and so they should!) The ones who earn less than people think they should, earn less than people think they should because they have less clinical skills (as I'm sure you know GWST, this isn't for your benefit!)
I don't think doctors are badly paid at all. I've never met a poor doctor, or one who drives a crappy car or lives in a council house.
save loads of money, tube should be like that by 2010 apparantly
I think you'll find it's management that do that.
So you're defending the strike they had over all those beer cans found in the staff room then?
In response to suicides. There are less suicides on tubes than there are on London streets and that doesnt take into account accidents that buses have. Nurses im sure, see far more death than tube workers
iirc management had no evidence as to who was responsible for those beer cans and unfairly victimised the nearest person/group of people.
How about criticising the bosses who cream off millions of public funds for change?
So when the union letter came forward saying that they should strike because of safety concerns because they couldnt strike because of the beer cans, that was alright? That was managements fault?
What letter was that? Do you have a copy?