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Euthanasia......again

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I couldn't possibly answer that - it would depend on so many things. And the point is we wouldn't know that you only had 12 weeks left to live...it is never a precise science until it's the last few hours really.

    Having said that, you would almost certainly be offered treatment at a hospice by a specialist in palliative care and they would treat as many or as few of your symptoms as you wanted.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    correct me if im wrong, but if im in pain they will surely dope me up with whatever so i cant feel pain, which would mean I wouldnt have a clue what day it was etc.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The two don't necessarily go hand in hand. You can have adequate pain relief and still know what day it is.

    Again, if you really couldn't cope, no one is stopping you taking your own life but I struggle to comprehend the assumption that the decision to end your life is validated if someone else is allowed to do it for you.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Suicide and Euthanasia are different things, different states of mind so what's true for one isn't always true for another.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    easy to say ...have you ever seen anyone dslowly dying in absolute agony?

    i have, and it's fucking horrible. especially if it's someone you love.

    i'm all for euthanasia in those circumstances. i don't see it as any different than switching off life support machines, or stopping treatment.

    if they are going to die anyway, and there's a good chance it's going to be a horribly traumatic, painful, drawn-out death, then it's not murder, it's helping them to die with dignity. it's what i'd want.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by kaffrin
    i have, and it's fucking horrible. especially if it's someone you love.

    i'm all for euthanasia in those circumstances. i don't see it as any different than switching off life support machines, or stopping treatment.

    if they are going to die anyway, and there's a good chance it's going to be a horribly traumatic, painful, drawn-out death, then it's not murder, it's helping them to die with dignity. it's what i'd want.

    Yup, that's what it's like. Except turning off the machines is worse, because then they slowly suffocate to death, instead of lethal injection, like the stuff they use over in the states.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    At the end of the day it's a personal choice. And if the person has stated that they wish to die, then they should be allowed to die with dignity instead of "living" their last few weeks in agony and misery.

    I understand with those who have concerns about the possibility of abuses regarding euthanasia. Every provision must be in place to ensure no lives are terminated where the patient might not have given his full consent (i.e. very old people). But in general principle euthanasia should be legalised, without a doubt.

    Few people piss me off more in life than those who campaign for euthanasia to remain illegal for all of us based on their beliefs and "morals". :mad:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well I think it would be fair that only doctors who want to carry out an euthanasia are made to do it.

    Though to be honest it would be possible for relatives of the person in question to do it... and in many cases for the person themselves. They just need to be provided with the necessary equipment/drugs needed, without the person who provided them being prosecuted for anything.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm not sure if I could. Then again, if I saw a loved one in terminal, agonising pain, or paralysed for life from the neck down and bed-ridden for the rest of their life and they wanted to be allowed to die, I'd probably help them if no-one else did.

    Incidentally, and this is the world's worst kept secret, doctors around countless countries around the world have been practising a form of euthanasia for years- namely the injection of a very large dose of morphine on very terminal patients (those who have days left at most). And thank god for such people.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    in many cases for the person themselves. They just need to be provided with the necessary equipment/drugs needed, without the person who provided them being prosecuted for anything.
    That is the situation at the moment, but somehow euthanasia justifies the decision. That was my point.
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