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So, you quoted a study no one's ever heard of. That ain't stats.
it's also not the point. You wanted a source, I got one. It's not like you're all, or any of you, are going to have heard of my sources. For example the IMechE conference on international safety standards. Not the most well known body in the world is it?
It's not the point, it's about group identity, and where it goes. This isn't a discussion about verifiable sources.
Blaggy, you make a valid point about the assertion that black boys are less academically able, but this isn't about race or discrimination, it's surely just naming generalisations and talking of averages and likelihoods.
There seems to be some confusion between stereotypes, generalisations and group identity - group identity is not something that you foist on people, its something they assume - and somehow (even if it was true that black men are less intelligent than you..... :rolleyes: ) I can't see too many people building a group identity out of being "less intelligent" .......
But if yer gonna use something to make a point, it should be a verifiable something.
no not really, my point was not really anything to do with any statistic in particular. It can be shown by the statistic that lboro uni ration boys to girls is 3/2 and therefore boys are rampantly horny OR by the same statistic that the girls are all easy.
I don't need to be able to back up the ratio, the point is that any group has an identity or stereotype, that doesn't mean that every or indeed any member of the group DIRECTLY reflects that identity.
Yes groups have identities and stereotypes (these things are not the same), but to assume that you know how an individual will be, based on their stereotype is the very defintion of prejudice.
That's precisly my point.
No, it's my point. Get yer own.
My 'e' key is broken.
How disapointing for you. Already eaten.
What's wrong with that one?! I blatantly haven't missed out an 'e' there.
*switches off internal spellchecker*
crap
As for discrimination between groups based on knowledge of the groups ages, genders, or even race (which I don't think I even mentioned!), I've only ever said that such discrimination can be reasonable. Insurance companies discriminate against young male drivers. Medics use racial profiling in the delivery of vital health services. Charities work to improve living conditions in poor, rather than rich countries. This is discrimination between human groups based on knowledge of the differences between the groups. I haven't even said that I approve of such discrimination or if I myself discriminate against anybody based on any criteria. Yet I'm a racist because doctors do! Give me the benefit of the doubt. I'm not racist.