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As for Prince Charles, I think he has valid opinions. I can't understand what this has to do wqith the employment tribunal - it seems to be a smear campaign to make him out to be an unsympathetic employer.
Career prgression seems to me to be a great motivator in the workplace. We don't want middle managers coming straight from nondescript university degrees - we need to give ordinary workers the option of progressing up the company with hard work and aptitude.
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Anyway Prince Charles has done far more to help young people than Charles Clarke. The Princes Trust has helped lots of young people and gave lots opportunities. Charles Clarke and his government meanwhile have taken opportunities away from young people – tuition and top-up fees come to mind.
Just because someone is good at something, it doesn't necessarily follow that they will be good at teaching it.
You crazy fool.
The worst thing about Leftists is not their bad intentions ( their intentions are mostly good) but their foggy, irrational and mystical style of thought.
A system that sees the cleverest lumped in with the idiots is destined to fail.
Much better to find out from the beginning what someone is capable of doing or becoming and leading them down that path.
There's no point teaching someone physics if they're destined to become a painter and decorator.
Much better to teach them a vocational subject which will give them the best start in life when they leave school.
I'm not saying that people shouldn't aim high, but it's very unrealistic for a school to think it can teach someone to be a university graduate and a leading scientist if they think science is a load of shit and would rather be making machinery or learning a trade.
is he qualified by some kind of effort to be the king of england or is he just dreaming?
You don't even know what you wrote. What on earth is wrong with you?
You wrote "I believe a man has the right to teach others only if he has achieved something on his field." I then said "Just because someone is good at something, it doesn't necessarily follow that they will be good at teaching it.", which is true. Teaching is a skill in itself. Just because you made a good contribution to a field does not mean you can teach. You seem to think it does.
You're really dumb.
You understood that as if it was: if someone has done something important then they must teach.
While I don't agree with labrat, I do think that you understood wrong.
Read what he wrote. He wrote "I believe a man has the right to teach others only if he has achieved something on his field", i.e. only people who have achieved something great in their field can be good teachers. Which is patently bollocks. I'm a good teacher in basic IT skills, but I haven't achieved anything in IT.
As usual, labrat hasn't a clue what he's on about.
You are being deliberatly obtuse and obstructivly misunderstanding. He has said, and here it is once again, seeing as the first 5 times weren't enough, that someone can only teach in a specialist field if they are a specialist in the field. Not that every specialist can teach.
No that isn't what he said.
I didn't say that he did. What's wrong with you?
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i want to be a teacher
i have the brains and the grades
i just can't afford the university fees
he was the wrong person to make thispoint though, and if people aim slightly beyond their means its okay, even they are unable to achieve it, cause they made do extremely well though, however the problem lies inthat most people there days IMO now think theyre above doing some jobs, which however crap and low paid they may be, theyre jobs and someone needs to do them
i agree with what he has to say about people aiming to do things whihc are beyond whatever natural talent they have.
Many people would be better off or mroe suited to doing vocational courses such as GNVQs or apprenticeships, but the education system seems determined to ship everyone off to university.
As stated before in this thread, there's only so far hard work can take you.
he's not telling other people what their children should do, he's just stating what he thinks, no like he's gonna go force everyone he doesn't think is up to scratch out of education and down the mines or something :rolleyes:
true and his comments werent party political either which you really shouldnt ay to anyone if your royal, but hey werent so its okay
The woman he was referring to seems to think that because she has a university degree then Charles was "bullying" her by not giving her a promotion. Which is quite clearly stupid, he obviously just didn't want to give the sanctimonious cow a job.
This was an internal memo, and about the subject it is right. People think that a qualification means that they are entitled to a job, when they are not.