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Disgusting.

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
There's just no excuse.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/4018421.stm

How should the Spanish be punished?

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    They need to fight back against racism and other forms of hooliganism just like the English did in the 80s.

    Spain should apologise publically on behalf of its team and genuine fans, and FIFA/UEFA should levy a fine or punishment of some sort.

    And Madrid will surely be excluded from the race for the Olympics now.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    this is so sad.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kentish
    Spain should apologise publically on behalf of its team and genuine fans, and FIFA/UEFA should levy a fine or punishment of some sort.
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2004532677,00.html
    Kind of apologised now but it still doesn't hide the fact of what they were doing.
    I couldn't believe it when I was watching it was clear to hear especially in the 2nd half when Wright-Phillips came on. I was shocked and I know personally I wouldn't have been able to handle such abuse and I take my hat of to the black english players for keeping there cool and not taking there frustartion out on other players, something I know I would have probably done in the circumstances.
    It is the job of FIFA/UEFA to punish the spanish. If it was England fans shouting the abuse we would have being threatened to get kicked out of tournaments etc. but other places in Europe seem to get away with hooliganism, racism etc.. They need to put a ban on Spanish fans going to games for at least 3 games in my opinion and make the Spanish team play home games behind closed doors, also a massive fine needs to be handed out to the Spanish FA. Doesn't help that the Spanish coach is a racist and didn't apologise for calling Thierry Henry a "black shit", when he got caught on camera.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't think Madrid for 2012 have a chance after this.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Disillusioned
    I don't think Madrid for 2012 have a chance after this.

    Neither do I.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The EU has nothing to do with it. Get a grip Luke ffs. :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Oh WOnderful Spain!

    Oh Wonderful, tolerant, multilateral EU!

    It is as I suspected , the continent of Europe is filled with disgusting bigots.

    Britain should have nothing to do with them, their politics, their unions and their racism.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Sorry guys, it’s just freedom of speech. Don’t like don’t listen. Why the hell Spanish football authorities should be punished for hooligans’ actions? Stupid. If Spaniards don’t like English Blacks or German Turks or Sweden Koreans or Polish Czechs or vanilla ice-cream this is their own business not yours.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by The Matadore
    Oh WOnderful Spain!

    Oh Wonderful, tolerant, multilateral EU!

    It is as I suspected , the continent of Europe is filled with disgusting bigots.

    Britain should have nothing to do with them, their politics, their unions and their racism.

    Because nobody at all in Britain is a racist.... :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by LabRat
    Sorry guys, it’s just freedom of speech. Don’t like don’t listen. Why the hell Spanish football authorities should be punished for hooligans’ actions? Stupid. If Spaniards don’t like English Blacks or German Turks or Sweden Koreans or Polish Czechs or vanilla ice-cream this is their own business not yours.

    :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    The EU has nothing to do with it. Get a grip Luke ffs. :rolleyes:

    Luke’s got a point. If it were English fans I bet the EU would have spoken out pretty fiercely against us; correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think the EU has condemned the Spanish?

    I also imagine people like yourself Aladdin would have been far more critical were it English fans rather than Spanish.

    Whatever the case it was a sad display of backwards behaviour and it was worrying how widespread it was.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by The Matadore
    Oh WOnderful Spain!

    Oh Wonderful, tolerant, multilateral EU!

    It is as I suspected , the continent of Europe is filled with disgusting bigots.

    Britain should have nothing to do with them, their politics, their unions and their racism.
    Fuck off you bigot.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Disillusioned
    Luke’s got a point. If it were English fans I bet the EU would have spoken out pretty fiercely against us; correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think the EU has condemned the Spanish?

    I also imagine people like yourself Aladdin would have been far more critical were it English fans rather than Spanish.

    Whatever the case it was a sad display of backwards behaviour and it was worrying how widespread it was.

    What has the European Union got to do with football :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Disillusioned
    Luke’s got a point. If it were English fans I bet the EU would have spoken out pretty fiercely against us;
    I bet they wouldn't.

    I don't remember the EU condemning England for, say, the murder of Stephen Lawrence, or the recent spite of homophobic attacks and murders. And why would they?

    Stop inventing scenarios that wouldn't have happened and trying to paint the EU as the Devil incarnated.
    correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think the EU has condemned the Spanish?
    Last I checked the EU and UEFA were independent organism.
    I also imagine people like yourself Aladdin would have been far more critical were it English fans rather than Spanish.
    Nope. I don't think so. Check my reaction in the sport forum.
    Whatever the case it was a sad display of backwards behaviour and it was worrying how widespread it was.
    On that I agree, though the number of people who joined in can be better explained by stupid defiance and ignorance (i.e. playing to the tune of the Spanish manager, who is the real cunt here) rather than widespread racism.

    Let's remember that there are plenty of black players playing every week in La Liga, and nothing like this has ever happened before. Surely if Spain was a country full of racists this would be common occurrence, would it not?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Renzo
    What has the European Union got to do with football :confused:

    What has racism got to do with football? Football is a sport and racism is a hateful ideology, there should be no link between the two. Sadly in Spain there is.

    Anyway the EU doesn't in principle have anything to do with football. Tony Blair doesn't have anything to do with football but he still spoke out against it. The EU should too if it hasn't already. And Spain and England are both EU members...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Disillusioned
    What has racism got to do with football? Football is a sport and racism is a hateful ideology, there should be no link between the two. Sadly in Spain there is.
    There is a link since Wednesday, is that what you're saying?

    I've got news for you mate: there is well established, and to this day very much alive link between football and racism in England.

    Go and ask Bradford or Leicester supporters who go to games regularly if they've ever had "you're just a town full of Pakis" chanted at them... :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    There is a link since Wednesday, is that what you're saying?

    I've got news for you mate: there is well established, and to this day very much alive link between football and racism in England.

    Go and ask Bradford or Leicester supporters who go to games regularly if they've ever had "you're just a town full of Pakis" chanted at them... :rolleyes:

    id agree with you on that, but we havent got THAT much of a problem in comparison to spain such that the manager and fans can get away with it in the national team

    if england done that we'd be kicked out of european championships automatically

    obviously removing racist ideas from football takes time, but in this country its going down gradually, and from my impression of match and its build up, its still prevalent there with noone trying to fix it

    i like how the manager had a go at english colonism - what has that got to do with the modern game, yes we have a bad history, so do most countries, ours had an effecton the world, sure, but it is stillhistory we're actively trying to make our country fairer, and you cant blame me for my countries history
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    What the spanish fans have done is disgusting and should be condemned from the highest level and Spain should be punished just like, i agree, England would be.

    However, I cant help thinking the English media are slightly pleased this has happened. It means they can avoid getting depressed about the fact England didnt have a shot on target and when people point the finger at them about hooliganism they can now say, "here, what about spain?"
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lukesh
    spain ahs shown how socialist it really it .... its really far right not popular party right

    You really don't have a clue do you? :lol:
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    I still remember going to a Chelsea vs Spurs game not too long back where all the Chelsea lot were chanting to the tune of Agadoo..

    Gas a jew jew jew
    in the oven gas mark 2...
    Weekender Offender 
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lukesh
    nothing but it would opf interfeared.... spain ahs shown how socialist it really it .... its really far right not popular party right
    What on earth are you talking about? :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lukesh
    oh aladdin u love shit stirrin
    Are you denying it's true?

    How convenient... :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by wheresmyplacebo
    id agree with you on that, but we havent got THAT much of a problem in comparison to spain such that the manager and fans can get away with it in the national team

    if england done that we'd be kicked out of european championships automatically

    obviously removing racist ideas from football takes time, but in this country its going down gradually, and from my impression of match and its build up, its still prevalent there with noone trying to fix it

    i like how the manager had a go at english colonism - what has that got to do with the modern game, yes we have a bad history, so do most countries, ours had an effecton the world, sure, but it is stillhistory we're actively trying to make our country fairer, and you cant blame me for my countries history
    I'm not making excuses for the manager or the Spanish FA. The manager is a racist tosser and it is a disgrace that he hasn't been sacked. The Spanish FA are obviously spineless idiots who sing to his tune of "I'm not really racist, some of my best friends are black, I was just winding Reyes up when I referred to Henry". I agree that he wouldn't have lasted a day if he'd been England's manager.

    I'd say Spain should at least be made to play behind closed doors for a number of games, the FA fined and the manager sacked immediately.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The Spanish media claim its all the English tabloids fault for making a fuss.
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