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Kerry and the assassination plot
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37706
Definitive of the character of the left, isn't it?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37577
Kerry continues to attempt to buy his way to a revised history...
Guess for those of the left, their "honor and loyalty" CAN be bought. :rolleyes:
Whether he supported the assassination attempt or not, Kerry was STILL an officer in the United States Navy, and did NOT report the assassination plot...FBI verifies Kerry at 'assassination summit'
Records back claim he was at meeting that discussed killing senators
Posted: March 23, 2004
5:00 p.m. Eastern
News management may have reached an embarrassing low in the Los Angeles Times for March 23 where an article by staff writer John M. Glionna purports to offer selections from the FBI file on soon-to-be Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry, who was under surveillance by the G-Men as a member of the executive board of the pro-Viet Cong Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
Presenting items from 50 documents carefully selected from what it reported were 14 boxes of related government papers 12 feet high, the Times confirmed from the FBI and other witnesses that Kerry had resigned from the VVAW leadership in November 1971 at a Kansas City board meeting to run for Congress.
For years Kerry claimed that he had resigned after a July 1971 meeting in St. Louis and had not been present for the Kansas City meeting that was moved from venue to venue to try to avoid FBI surveillance of the group's most secret plans.
The reason official confirmation that he did not leave the group until after the Kansas City meeting is important, say specialists on radical activities during the Vietnam era, is that the FBI documents confirm earlier reports by those present that Kerry participated in a closed-door discussion of a proposal to assassinate seven U.S. senators who were special targets of Hanoi, with whose agents selected leaders of VVAW had been meeting.
The Los Angeles Times made no mention of this part of the story, broken 10 days earlier in the New York Sun by founding New York Times books editor Tom Lipscomb and since spiked by editors coast to coast.
Kerry reportedly voted against the killings but did not leave the meeting and call a cop. Until the FBI surveillance report surfaced to put him in the middle of the assassination discussion, Kerry claimed to have resigned before the meeting at which VVAW discussed the murder plan.
After Kerry left the board of VVAW, with which he had made his national reputation, the FBI ceased surveillance of his activities according to a bureau memo in early 1972.
Definitive of the character of the left, isn't it?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37577
Kerry camp hiring 'assassin'?
Man who plotted murder of congressmen offered job
Posted: March 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A Vietnam veteran who plotted to kill members of Congress in 1971 is reportedly ready to accept a position working in the presidential campaign of John Kerry.
Leaders of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, including John Kerry, debated a plot to assassinate congressmen in November 1971, according to a report in the New York Sun.
The Kerry campaign denies the senator and presidential candidate was present at the meeting, saying he quit the organization prior to the heated session in Kansas City, Nov. 12-15, 1971.
However, Randy Barnes of Missouri Veterans for Kerry, disputes that account. Barnes participated in the meeting and he says Kerry, then 27, was at the meeting, voted against the plot and then resigned from the organization. According to the Sun report, another Vietnam vet who attended the meeting, Terry Du-Bose, agreed that Kerry was there.
That the VVAW debated killing members of Congress is not a new revelation. The plot was reported in Gerald Nicosia's 2001 book, "Home To War," that one of the key leaders of the organization, Scott Camil, "proposed the assassination of the most hard-core conservative members of Congress, as well as any other powerful, intractable opponents of the antiwar movement." The book reports on the Kansas City meeting at which Camil's plan was debated and then voted down.
In a cover blurb on the book, Kerry said it "ties together the many threads of a difficult period." Kerry hosted a party for the book in the Hart Senate Office Building that was televised on C-SPAN, according to the Sun.
Camil, never prosecuted for the plot, plans to accept an offer by the Florida Kerry organization to become active in the presidential campaign, according to the report. Camil's plot, involving eight to 10 Marines, targeted the Southern senatorial leadership including John Stennis, Strom Thurmond and John Tower.
Kerry's service in Vietnam and his activities after the war have become a major source of controversy – especially with other Vietnam veterans.
Last week, one of his crew members accused him of cowardice and making strategic mistakes in battle. The testimony of Steven Gardner, a gunner's mate on the first patrol boat commanded by Kerry in the Mekong delta, contradicts accounts of the senator's military career that depict him as a brave and aggressive lieutenant who won three Purple Hearts.
"He absolutely did not want to engage the enemy when I was with him,'' Gardner said in an interview with the Boston Globe. "He wouldn't go in there and search. That is why I have a negative viewpoint of John Kerry."
Gardner has refused to join the tight-knit group of Vietnam veterans who are passionate supporters of their former comrade's White House bid.
Kerry is said to be "angry'' about the slur.
Kerry continues to attempt to buy his way to a revised history...
Guess for those of the left, their "honor and loyalty" CAN be bought. :rolleyes:
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Keep it going
Rev Moon perhaps?
Which would explain some of your behavior.
Got much of a hacking cough, in the mornings?
What you fail to realize, dipshit, is that there are many of us still around who were in Vietnam, and remember Kerry's treason.
AND his activities, after returning from that place.
You? Would simply buy into Kerry's revised history.
And the fool? Would be you, because you ain;'t even getting paid for your stupidity...
Fucking loosers
This should be interesting
What the fuck have you ever done for your country then?
Yes of course you do. :rolleyes:
don't be daft
There's no need for that.
And what mr has done for his country is er kinda irrelevant…And it’s something the likes of you as far as I can see have no right to ask. (But I'm sure he's done lots of cool stuff).
Being the fng here, I supposed your ignorance is understandable, although "what I did in Vietnam" has been thoroughly discussed, over the past many years, here.
Two tours, 26 months in combat. Four Purple Hearts. Other commendations? None of your fucking business. Left Vietnam as a Gunnery Sgt. Infantry. First tour with the 1st Btn, 9th Marines (aka "the Walking Dead"). Last figure I saw published was 78% KIA, for the 1/9. Second tour is none of your fucking business.
By the time I was 21? I ran a Marine company. 150 Marines. In a combat zone.
Over 500 days of close combat, in those 26 months.
While Kerry was in Paris, committing treason? I was in Quang Tri Province, fighting against those he actively supported.
And I came home to a perception of Vietnam combat veterans as "drugged up, pscho, baby-killing, rapist, war criminals", the creation of John Fakir Kerry.
So YES... I clearly have had a belly full of that traitor, for more than three decades.
In the Marine Corps? Purple Heart required 48 hrs in hospital, to be considered for the award. Kerry's? Were self inflicted "bandaid wounds", scratches for which he lost no time. His "Silver Star"? Was for executing a wounded POW, in the back of the head. Kerry is SELF ADMITTED WAR CRIMINAL, by his own testimony in front of Congress.
Need more?
Big fucking proud boy that killed Babies
Nice one!
i larf and take the piss but you guys are taking this tooooo far.
globe has every right to be proud and have his memories.
most of you would crap yerselves and run if you had to face him ...
there ware warriors in this world ya know.
mightt disgree with his piolotics but you cannot deny his bravery or comitment.
well you can from the safty of your warm fuckin room.
Next time you're in Brixton, come look me up.
The more I see Blair continue to refuse to do the honourable thing, and resign from office over his obvious involvement in misleading the country, as well as his own MPs, to bring us into an illegal war, the more I come to the conclusion that an 'infusion of lead' is the only way justice will be served. In short, to 'knock off the PM job', as it were.
Gonna report this discussion, Thanny? You're a party to it, after all...
the New Zealand press release back in 1963 about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. As reported independently by Colonel Fletcher Prouty USAF (Retired), whoever set Kennedy up, accidentally launched a full international newswire biography on obscure “killer” Lee Harvey Oswald, without first taking the trouble to check his world clock.
It was still “yesterday” in New Zealand on the other side of the International Date Line when the biography was wired from New York, enabling the Christchurch Star newspaper was able to print a story about Oswald as the prime suspect in its morning edition, several hours before he was first accused of the crime by Dallas police.
Shut up. Seriously.
It's not good to see your lack of understanding or respect for people.
I don't like Globe's politics, but in fighting for his country in Vietnam he did something I could never do. And I respect people who can do that.
anyway in the long run you won it, they have coca cola and everything there, apparantly theyre still communist, about as communist as nazi germany
Or supposition from prejudice?
Pointless because Pol Pot had the right idea? Support his "answer"?
You postulate from ignorance.
no im not - its quite obvious you couldnt of won that war no matter how many VC you killed, you need to win over a people, not their army, to beat guerillas and well you didnt do that....
My respects for the both of you. Honor has not disappeared, from this place.
My perceptions? My "politics"? Come from having survived what so many did not.
How little you know.
The Viet Cong ceased to be an issue after they were effectively wiped from existence, during their debacle of the Tet Offensive. They simply ceased to be an element. Those I fought against? Were the NVA, not the Viet Cong terrorists.
The NVA were on the verge of surrender, continuously. They WOULD have, had it not been for the efforts of the "anti-war movement" (within the US, as typified by Kerry), which bouyed the hope of a militarily defeated regime. All they had to do was to simply hold on, until the cowardice of the left prevailed.
Which it eventually did.
The mission statement for the US military was to prevent NVn from over-running SVn. When the last despirate hope took place in 1972 - the Easter Offensive - the US had withdrawn to only 10% strength. North Vietnam again broke cease fire agreements, and poured through the DMZ, invading the south. Although it took months, we forced the NVA back across the DMZ, and all the way to the peace tables in Paris.
They knew that their only chance of survival was to surrender. Which they did.
In accordance with the "Peace Agreement" from Paris, the US withdrew the last of the military forces from Vietnam, in 1973.
When the NVA renewed their war, in 1975? The US government betrayed pledges to Saigon, and refused to come to their aid.
Do some research. Even the generals of the NVA - from that time - admit that they were beaten. And that research? Will substantiate everything which I say...
The reason that I requested a second tour of duty, in Vietnam? After already having been wounded twice, in combat? Is that I PERSONALLY OBSERVED what was to come, the genocide of the Dega.
Do NOT presume to "educate" me as to what you presume to have happened TWO DECADES prior to your birth, which I endured first hand: your arrogance in the matter is pathetic.