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i don't really consider this debate or politics, just a general query, which is why i've located it here.
when one becomes an australian citizen, one has to agree to abide by the laws of the land, and most interestingly, defend australia should the need arise. does this occur with british citizenship? if there's a call to arms to defend the nation, would all new british citizens be obligated to fight for britain? and does this apply to the rest of us, because we haven't actually agreed to be british citizens, it has just been imposed on us at birth?
when one becomes an australian citizen, one has to agree to abide by the laws of the land, and most interestingly, defend australia should the need arise. does this occur with british citizenship? if there's a call to arms to defend the nation, would all new british citizens be obligated to fight for britain? and does this apply to the rest of us, because we haven't actually agreed to be british citizens, it has just been imposed on us at birth?
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I have an Aussie passport, and don't have to do any of that, but then I was born Aussie.
are we actually obligated to go to war if the government wish us to? as british citizens by birth?
If you live in that country, then yes. All it would take is an Act of Parliament.
It's no different in Oz.
i think its illegal not to vote in oz tho
yep, it is.
although they ahve a "none of the above" option, and the voting system is STV rather than FPTP.
Military law is different- if you are in the military, and you don't do as you're told, then you get jailed for it.
If he was a civilian it'd have been different.
but surely you have the right to be a conchy?
isn't that protected by geneva?
See I read that if you go through the correct channels they can't imprison you for doing that, not without this act of parliament that Kermit's mentioned at any rate.
id rather something like this came in in britain, of course it would never happen, the government choosing a system against the one that elected them
which is the dilemma for the liberal democrats - they need to change the system to get elected, but they need to get elected to change the system...
Since when? I must have missed that box the last time I voted....
I know that Fiend, I can still vote in oz land as well as the uk....
I have only ever heard of a donkey vote, where you spoil your paper by ticking none or all of the boxes and invalidating it. I think it is one of the major flaws of the Australian system, making it compulsory to vote but not giving you the choice to not make a choice. Unless the law has changed, in which case I would be pleased.
if he wasn't prepared to go to war then why did he join the army? what did he think it was for?!
they don't sit around baking cakes all day.
:rolleyes:
It wasn't that he didn't want to fight, but had an objection to the reasons he was going. Which is fair enough. People can vote conservative but think that a particular policy is wank.
That'd be nice, apparently in voting the spoiled papers have to be seen by the candidates to agree that they've been spoiled and no vote is counted.
it's the army, you do what you're told to do... you have zero say in the matter, you know this before you join unless you're a complete idiot.
you are a faceless killer, told to step up and take a bullet for your country by a guy in a suit sat at home safe and sound.
if you don't want to get shot, don't join the army.