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one party stae ...
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as opposed to a two party stae.
if kerry gets in ...it's still the super rich and powerful at the end of the day.
if kerry gets in ...whats the difference?
what kind of denmocracy are we forcing on people ...?
if kerry gets in ...it's still the super rich and powerful at the end of the day.
if kerry gets in ...whats the difference?
what kind of denmocracy are we forcing on people ...?
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imagine anything radical happening in america?
no chance.
A dead dog can’t be cured. Democracy can’t be improved if even you have 100 parties because it is shit by definition.
PS It is simple why multiparty systems tend to became two-party systems. Democratically elected government buys a support of some groups redistributing money of other groups to them. The most rational scheme is when it has a support of 50.1% voters. Two-party system is the fittest to this task.
Neither party in the USA wants to help the country. They both just want to get rich, and will do whatever is necessary to get that.
In contrast over here at least the parties do what they need for the people and not the corporations, at least nowhere near to the same extent as the US.
At least we still have a judicial system that is entirely seperate to the parties as well.
In the States one needs to join the party which fits your criterias the most (even if it's by a long way) and hope to change the party from within.
Currently there is simply no other way to be heard as a minor voice.
Thank you for a good laugh... (btw, this wasn't meant to be demeaning in any way - realised that it could be seen in the same way as Blagsta's usual comments are)
Good job we've got the liberal democrats then.
:banghead:
So let me get this straight (correct me if I get anything wrong).
You hate New Labour.
You hate the fact that the Conservatives and New Labour are the same.
You hate any other option.
I think I got it straight now :thumb:
Now that we've got that sorted, pie anyone?
Does New Zealand even have a political system or is it just Australia's lap dog?
Remember Luke “Anarchy ( not the State!) is a Mother of Order!” Don’t believe stupid gossips. NZ is not and never was Australian lap dog. Aotearoa has its own bastards who are not sillier but definitely smarter than their Australian mates.
Our lovely Helen is a female clone of your Tony. This new breed of ‘Labour’. While Oz’s Howard is just a pale shadow of Bush. You are free to name your PM ‘bastard’ but you can’t name his ‘dubya’, right? Because he is not. As well as Helen. ????????????????
Are you kidding? Surely UK media ( TV frechensies) isn’t own by 2 companies, it’s owned by 1 company (BBC)!!! While the same diapason of frequencies in US is owned by at least TEN companies. Not speaking about cable TV! ( tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands in US and… what about UK?) plus, the most disgusting thing- TV licences! We don’t have this shit in the poor country of Ukraine, we don’t have this shit in the happy county of Aotearoa, they don’t have this shit in America… but you poor Brits and you poor Prussians have this shit… what can I say? My congratulations!!!
And you're not an anarchist. How many times do I have to tell you?
BBC, ITV, SKY, NTL, Telewest and quite a few more.
Each cable company provides you with hundreds of channels.
For news you get Sky News, BBC, ITV, Channel 5, Channel 4, CNN, and god knows how many more.
If we want an unbiased news article we can get it quite easily.
How easy is that to do in the USA where every single news channel is owned by 2 or 3 corporations who tout Bush's every word like some sort of digital pimp?
Right, well that's such a surprise.
The current government introduced these, when they got voted in, and statistics show that crime hasn't fallen.
Yet many people still argue to keep the bigger penalties as it symbolises that the victim is taken seriously.
This suggests that people see penalties and prison as a form of revenge, rather than a way of rehabilitating the offender.
Fair enough I say.
It's not as if the public decides how long the offender will serve or whatever.
Rather they show a trend of what society as a whole finds appropriate.
i believe there should be an element of punishement ...retribution ...revenge.
the idea of rehabilitaion is great but can never be done wholesale simply because the resources needed are staggering.
specialists and proffesionals by their thousands ...equipment etc.
prison should be tough and mostly is. it should always remain humane though.
some bastards do indeed deserve to suffer and suffer they do!
The only uinfortunate thing, and one the right wingers don't grasp (and never will) is that strong penalties don't work. They make the victim feel better, but they create more victims than if community-based rehabilitation work was undertaken.
People want safe streets, but their actions create unsafe streets.