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"I feel the only help I can give them is to ensure they get a decent burial."

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
http://news.scotsman.com/health.cfm?id=1118552004

Nothing new. But, nonetheless depressing. It’s a sad failure of our society that a story of pre-teen heroine addicts doesn’t force our politicians to actually do something. Whatever they’re doing at the moment simply isn’t enough.

Will it always be like this? Will it get worse? Any ideas on how this sorta thing can get better?

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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Decriminalise it. Give heroin on prescrpition free to addicts. Provide a readily available suppply of clean needles and safe areas for addicts to inject.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i totaly agree with skive.
    the deaths are obviously very real but i have real doubts about pre teens being 'addicts.'
    to be an addict is an expensive pastime and takes a lot of cunning and shrewdness.
    how can 10/11 and 12 year olds be addicts unless someone is giving them heroin for free ...or maybe for services as a runner?
    if someone is paying these kids as runners then someone should be getting thirty years.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Originally posted by lukesh
    what sort of soceity is that?

    One where addicts don't have to commit other crimes to pay for their addiction.
    One where they will get clean drugs for free, taking the money away from organised crime.
    It will be a society where we treat addiction as an illness, rather than as a crime.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Skive
    One where addicts don't have to commit other crimes to pay for their addiction.
    One where they will get clean drugs for free, taking the money away from organised crime.
    It will be a society where we treat addiction as an illness, rather than as a crime.

    Oops, siding with Skive. Not necessarily full legalisation. But making sure that adicts are as safe as possible. A misguided 10-year-old shouldn't have to die because they're considered a criminal instead of ill.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    and over than seriously ODing on heroin, most addicts will probably die fro mthe crap mixed in with it by dealers, like sand and talcam powder

    decriminalise usage, and give all addicts a free supply of needles and cheap or free heroin so they can get fof it


    in scotland though, i have the feeling that it a serious lack of potential of future for these council estate kids that leads them to drugs

    fuck all for kids to do these days, cause of busybodies who complain when kids play football on street, or those 2 boys who got a court summons for playing football on their street, cause it was 'obstructing traffic' when the road was empty and in middle of nowhere
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    A misguided 10-year-old shouldn't have to die because they're considered a criminal instead of ill.
    a misguided tenyear old shouldn't be able to get their hands on the stuff.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Well, that too.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Fiend_85
    Well, that too.
    i could understand if the odd kid found some by accident ...but they shouldn't even then ...know what to do with it surely.
    how many people on these boards know how to chase the draggon or mix up a hit with acetic acid and then inject it?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Addicted children come from addicted parents. That's how they get this stuff, that's how they get addicted. They get addicted in the womb, and it weill get worse before it gets better.

    Skive's idea, distasteful as it initially sounds, is the way to cure the problem in the short term. If getting people addicted to this stuff won't make money for the dealers, then they won't bother selling it. But in this "string 'em up" culture we have, this will never happen.

    The greatest deterrent to serious drug abuse? Ambition and hope.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lukesh
    why not just don't take the drug?

    It does more harm then good!

    One word: addiction.

    If they could stop they would stop.;
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lukesh
    They shouldn't start in the first place. that is my point. How many times do we get told in life not to take drugs because they are bad?

    People make mistakes.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lukesh
    They shouldn't start in the first place. that is my point. How many times do we get told in life not to take drugs because they are bad?

    So because they made a mistake they shouldn't be helped?

    So because their mother is an addict they shouldn't be helped?

    You truly do define compassionate.
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    SkiveSkive Posts: 15,286 Skive's The Limit
    Originally posted by lukesh
    How many times do we get told in life not to take drugs because they are bad?

    Yes but it's not as clear cut as that.
    Drugs can be bad if you become dependant or abuse them. There's a lot of drugs that most people can use without any negative effects. Unfortunately because the media and the government enjoy this simple 'just say no - drugs are bad' crap rather than educating people proplerly we now have this problem.
    People have a serious distrust of everything the government say when it comes to drugs because half of it is 99% bullshit. Education and harm reduction is the key, not stupid scare tactics.
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