hostage negotiations

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should we negotiate a deal


i say no ,cause otherwise theyd of won and do it again

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Re: Re: hostage negotiations

Originally posted by J
They shouldn't capture innocent civilians in the first place, why do we need to negotiate?

and we shouldn't be there imprisonig and bombing thousands of iraqi civilians ...what do people expect ...theres nowt to negotiate realy.
we have completely fucked up the iraqi peoples lives ...for what exactly?
these people didn't suffer terrorism till we went in and splattered innocent people all over the place.

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To be honest, barbaric as their actions are you can bet your bottom dollar that the Iraqis see the deaths of 10,000+ civilians as utterly barbaric as well.

We don't get to see much of those, but scenes of street markets being bombed 'by mistake' by US planes and dozens of people including women and children being torn to pieces by a 2,000 lb fragmentation missile are every bit as barbaric as a beheading. Some people in the West choose to see such deaths as 'collateral damage' or 'casualties of war'. I have no doubt many Iraqis will see the beheadings of those poor people in a similar way.

The US and British governments should have known that wars are not civilised by nature. The Iraqi resistance have no military hardware to speak of and our great leaders should have worked out that the Iraqis will fight the Allied forces in every way conceivable. You can't illegally bomb and invade a country and expect the resistance to fight nice and noble.

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I wonder if Tony Blair would be negotiating now if Euan Blair was kidnapped by terrorists threatening to cut off his head unless his father freed some female Iraqi prisoners?

Generally, there is one rule for those in government and another for us mere mortal, expendable souls ....

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The root of the problem is that Britain can do nothing about the women prisoners even if it wants to reach a deal. The Americans have them, and only yesterday they overruled the supposedly legitimate and independent Iraqi government when it said it was going to release one of them.


So other than offer money or god knows what else, the British government is practically powerless. The US government won't listen to Blair. They've already proved how much they care about the lives of both their soldiers and civilians anyway...

What makes me laugh the most is the supreme hypocrisy of the US government. Had those two Iraqi women possessed any special knowledge the US didn't have in chemical or biological weapons, they would be working in a US lab today and living the grand life. That was certainly the case with countless Nazi and Japanese scientists. But those two women couldn't contribute anything new to the US warfare know-how (and no surprisingly- the US has the biggest stockpile of chemical and biological weapons in the world and their expertise in the issue is second to none) so they are kept imprisoned even against the wishes of the Iraqi government that was supposed to be independent and with powers.

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Originally posted by Aladdin
The root of the problem is that Britain can do nothing about the women prisoners even if it wants to reach a deal. The Americans have them, and only yesterday they overruled the supposedly legitimate and independent Iraqi government when it said it was going to release one of them.

Then why does the Bristish government talk about not giving in to terrorists if they can't make the decision anyway?

Blair ought to say quite openly and clearly that it is out of his hands and that he is subjected to America's decision - like evrything else that Bush dictates to him.

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The SAS are already there or so they say.

and we shouldn't be there imprisonig and bombing thousands of iraqi civilians

And that was on purpose? I think'll find the Iraqi's have had their lives ruined for the last 30 years because of who they had in power. Did people forget that Saddam raped woman along with murding then, men & children?