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The MOBO awards and homophobia
BillieTheBot
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For the second year running the black music awards ceremony, the MOBO, has attracted condemnation for the nomination of homophobic artists.
Full story here...
... and a letter from OutRage! explaining its reasons for protesting.
Apparently some people have accused OutRage! of 'racism' because "they're attacking 'black music'" and this is what black people like to hear... :rolleyes:
On the other hand, if the 2 artists concerned this year have apologised for past lyrics and the singles that are nominated have no homophobic content, are there still grounds to demand the show does not go ahead?
Well one of them has apologized… I’m not sure about the other. And to be frank there should be absolutely zero tolerance to any lyrics that advocate beating homosexual people to death…
Full story here...
... and a letter from OutRage! explaining its reasons for protesting.
Apparently some people have accused OutRage! of 'racism' because "they're attacking 'black music'" and this is what black people like to hear... :rolleyes:
On the other hand, if the 2 artists concerned this year have apologised for past lyrics and the singles that are nominated have no homophobic content, are there still grounds to demand the show does not go ahead?
Well one of them has apologized… I’m not sure about the other. And to be frank there should be absolutely zero tolerance to any lyrics that advocate beating homosexual people to death…
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Again people will 'label' black culture (as if there is any one homogenous black culture) as bad for being homophobic!
Sorry but most parts of the world are! People in the Islamic world for example have negative attitudes towards gays.
Black societies are more homophobic than Western ones (and don't flame it's true to an extent).
Take Nigeria. It's a very religious country and the Muslims and Christians in that nation would oppose homosexuality based on respective passages from the Bible and Koran.
We are not in Nigeria, being prejudice toward a person for reasons of colour, sex, marital status or sexuality, along with many other reasons, is, whether you like it or not, illegal in this country.
When did I advocate 'being prejudiced to people' in this thread?
And is it illegal? Committing 'hate crimes' against people is illegal, yes. Simply thinking 'prejudiced' thoughts isn't.
In any case I don't think this incident is much representative of black attitudes at large. There are nearly 100 nominees in the awards. Only two of them have produced homophobic tracks in the past- or as far as OutRage is concerned. That is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination.
Acting in a prejudice way is. Companies can be taken to court for not employing a person because of any of the things I've listed.
You personally didn't advocate being prejudice, but how is Nigeria relevant to the discussion? The black community in question is either British or American, and therefore have to abide by the rules of the country.
Saying all this I don’t really see the need for a black music awards ceremony given that virtually all popular music is of black origin.
The response from the MOBOs is that the artist in question hasn't performed a homophobic track for years. Should that matter?
They're incorperating asian music now, and it hasn't always been the case for mobo type music to be in the mainstream.
Not really true. Certainly they played a substantial part.
The BBC should be ashamed of themselves, as should the MOBO organisers.
That, I think, is not really fair. People can and do change their opinions of things. Especially as they grow older.
Perhaps the BBC should know better, but the MOBOs should just be about the music.
Yet you feel sporting events such as the Olympics are an appropriate outlet to make political protest against Israel…
If for instance the American Country Music Awards rewarded an artist with racist or homophobic lyrics would you still have the same attitude in that it ‘should be just about the music’?
You're right, somehow they don't seem the same, but you're right. Sorry.
Do you agree that an artist has the right to change his opinions without being punished for it for the rest of his career though?
Lol, thanks!
Yes, I do think all people can change their opinions. For instance somebody could be brought up not knowing anybody who is gay and is surrounded by homophobic attitudes and pretty much has bigotry drummed into them growing up. Well unsurprisingly they’d probably be homophobic. But then, as time goes on…they get to know people and become more open-minded and tolerant. If that’s the case, I definitely agree they should not be punished for the rest of their career.
In this case though, isn’t the artists sincerity of his ‘apology’ somewhat questionable?
Cheers...have a good weekend!
I think that sincerity is entirely subjective. He could mean it entirely, and the reason a person is not so sure is simply because of the way he talks, the only fair way to decide is to see if he keeps to it.