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Age of criminal responsibilty
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At present in England & Wales it's ten, but should it be lowered?
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You did, you posted on a public board, were you expecting no responses? You ask a question you are bound to get a person with a different point of view.
My point is, that if people are arrested at a younger age, the potential cycle of being in and out of young offenders and prison may just start earlier and disrupt education more. Are the police likly to waste their time.
Which particular point are you confused about?
I question the point of arresting trouble-makers younger, as then you just start the cycle of being in and out of prison earlier, very little changes and you add to disruption in their lives.
Maybe community orders for younger deliquents?
Why don't you learn to spell?
I don't want HER to respond!
You can't pick and choose who replies to your threads.
Military school may help the lack of dicipline, but ordinarily the child would be boarding, I don't think it's right to remove a child from it's family without a very good reason so young.
Why do people pick on Luke for his spelling? It pisses me off when people go blagging each other about that... I mean how many people here have perfect spelling and grammar?
Perhaps some of us have learning difficulties... dyslexia... dyspraxia, hyperlexia or something that affects the way we spell. But why must people lean towards insults and whatnot... especially ones as pointless as how to use and not use the English language.
Anyway Monocrat, you hardly display much prowess in the English language yourself... with your one sentence replies. If you want to criticise on spelling, write an essay on how it's done, not a five word answer to a comment somebody makes.
I agree especially as it was not so much an error in spelling as hitting the space bar by mistake.
go get tested
Now back to the argument at hand!
Discuss.
Also military schools?
No problem... I have dyspraxia which can cause problems with things like that and especially reading. It's hard when people bitch at you for silly things like spelling and whatnot...
if it's any consolation, dyslexics and dyspraxics tend to fall in to the slightly above average to superior range of intelligence... or something (according to my ed psych).
The military don't want them.
The age of criminal responsibility is too high, it should be 6 or 7.
There isn't very much that can be done about kids who become delinquents so young. Jail 'em and they learn the tricks of the trade; don't jail 'em and they just laugh at you. Making them clean public bogs with toothbrushes might be a good way of doing it, but then if you humiliate them too far they get angry and rebel even further.
Far greater minds than my own have failed to come up with a compromise. I think that, sadly, in many cases the delinquents are beyond redemtpion- we just need to make sure that their children do not become the same.
As a general rule the easiest way to curb delinquency is to be socially inclusive and socially ambitious. Ambition and a sense of belonging stop people destroying communities; no hope, no prospects, and no way of joining society at a meaningful level make people destroy things as they haven't got anything to lose.
Be buggered if I know how to do it though. Schemes like Sure Start are a start, but they only appeal to the parents who give a shit. And a lot don't.
That's true. They have to be otherwise how would they perform at an average level?
Yesterday I saw a parent use the f-word to one of her children. What kind of example is that setting the child?
Teacher to kid: "Don't swear"
Kid to teacher: "My mummy lets me swear at home."
How do you cope with that?
It puts the kid on a slippery slope. First its bad language, then vandalism, drug-taking and theft. If the parents let the kids get away with it, then no amount of disciplining by teachers/social workers/Policemen is going to stop them.
I agree, how is it, that one person in a set environment ie same school same neighbourhood, can grow up to do one thing, and another child, of similar ability, can grow up to do another. The parents are the variable factor.
I read in the telegraph some time last year how teenagers and now more conservative than their parents and while they may have done rebellious things at the age of 17/18 were forming the ideas that their parents shunned in the 60s and 70s.
Sign of social cycle?
Community punishment may work, perhaps get them to work with the litter pickers or something?
On the basis that the worst a 7 year old would really be doing is mindless vandalism, making them clear it up would probably be the best response.