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so i've never tried speed and i don't really know much of its effects or anything. but i had somebody tell me if i like coke, should try speed, not to mention that its dead cheaper. so what are the similarities and differences between the effects of coke and speed? and how about if you smoke up while on speed?
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If you have an addictive type personality AT ALL then dont touch it.
As for it being similar to cocaine, no, not really, its much more powerful, far more physical stimulation, much longer lasting.
And yes, you can smoke cannabis with it, but in high doses on the comedown probably isnt a good idea. Meth come downs can be really grim.
I sound really anti-meth because I know its too nice, its too powerful, I am glad I can not buy it because I know regardless of where I got the money I would become addicted.
Dose is really difficult to say really because of the purity issue, but pure its about 50mg oraly and less snorted or smoked.
DO NOT smoke the stuff first time, no matter what ANYONE tells you.
Snorting is the most painful thing you can snort, it will feel like your burning a hole in your head. (which you are somewhat)
The come up when taken oraly will be about 20-30mins, your'll feel more stimulated, your confidence will rise, your'll get a feeling that your speeding up. Your mind will race and your heart rate will go up. You might find that your hands and feet get a little cold.
Its a much more physical, much more punchy drug than cocaine.
Basically imagine how you feel when your at your most energetic and confident, then multiply it A LOT and you've got the effect.
Please please stay away from this drug, it is VERY addictive.
I had enough of a problem with just plain amphetamine, meth is another thing altogether.
I basically stopped when I went out for an evening and took loads and my lips turned blue - I kind of thought that it might be a good idea to give up at that point......
i`d love to get my hands on meth but like bong i`d probably find myself getting unstuck if i liked it too much.
speed is the general name over here for amphetamines. meth as far as i understand is a stronger more addictive form of speed.
In the US most street speed will be methamphetamine, however, there are a few prescription amphetamines which get onto the market. Adderal is the obvious one.
Yes, methamphetamine is made using nasty chemicals, but that is somewhat beside the point, what a drug is made of has no relation to what the end chemical is like.
Personally I think methamphetamine will create a market for itself over here, its only a matter of time. Most clubbers wont touch it in powder form, but if pills came on the market with meth in then....well compared to 'normal' pills they would pack a serious punch.
Has it ever been here in pillform before like as a rare treat?
:yes: the worst two comedowns i've ever had came after sniffing a shitload of speed, not good on the ole head.
is that the speed thats sticky and you swallow it, we get that over here all the time, unless i'm mistaken.
It could be sticky because of what its cut with like glucose i think.
i'm pretty sure that once i had some pills which had meth in them. If that was the case then i am fucking glad i can't get hold of meth as that would be my downfall without a doubt.
As for the debate over whats termed 'base' in this country, 99/100 its not actually 'base' as such. Freebase amphetamine is a grey sticky paste and will be very strong.
Most 'base' comes as a white hard lump or sometimes sticky. If its white then its amphetamine sulfate which has been wetted down with acetone or something like that.
As for the glucose cut, it wouldnt make the powder sticky, it wont really look like amphetamine. It has a more glittery look to it, far more like suger but smaller bits. It can also be identified when snorted too, it produces a sickly sweet taste in the back of the thoat.
99/2000
the "base" we had was pink, what could that be?
that's what i meant, a mix, not pure meth.
Well the very origins of pink speed are somewhat clouded in drug folk law. It is thought that bikers made up a batch of speed quite a long time ago now which went slightly wrong and it came out pink. It was however very strong and sold well.
Since then the pink has virtually always been added to the mix in an effort to differenciate one batch from another.
This colouring is easy with amphetamine sulfate because its a pure white colour. However it would be near impossible with freebase because of the paste consistancy.
So I would say that pink speed is almost certainly amphetamine sulfate.
Yeah, because is speed is without risk :rolleyes:
All drug use has the potential to damage your liver with regular use, as it processes all the toxins in and put in to your body.
LOL, eh? If the site is meant to be focussed on harm minimisation then you should consider changing its content. And by the way, you're implying that the person asking the question would be better off using speed as opposed to coke - it's well known amongst users speed causes damage to the liver, more so than cocaine.
That is a matter of opinion, but I can tell you that is the focus of the information.
I'll forgive you for that as you are a newbie, but in case it was a bit subtle for you I will explain - that was sarcasm, in response to your comment advocating that people use cocaine in preference to speed, because speed was worse for your liver. I wsa pointing out that neither are very good for your liver. All drugs have risks.
BTW, just because peoplewho use it say its true doesn't suddenly make it so. There is a lot of myth and hearsay out there.
I'm aware it was sarcasm, note my reply. You were implying speed was somehow a better option than cocaine. Seeing how the chap is already using cocaine i'm merely suggesting trying speed isn't worth it unless he's struggling for money.
It's well-known medically speed causes problems for the liver, more so than cocaine. It's not mere hearsay. Thrown in with the harsher comedowns, stomach pains, the skin deterioration and the fact you can get a gram for a 1/5th of the price of a gram of cocaine, i'd say i've got a good basis for my opinion.
Can I suggest you find some links to support your opinion, rather than saying is is a well-known fact or that it is commonly known? I'm not saying you may not be right, just that they are not valid reasons for saying something is fact. There is a lot of mis-information out there. And in fact, all drugs are metabolised through the liver, so they all affect the liver in a negative way. Just how badly is dependent on how you use/abuse the substance.