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non-compos-mentis
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my brain feels like a jigsaw, and the pieces are scattered all over the floor, have to pick them up one by one.......last night i think i went to the brink of insanity, and then some.......death by argyreia nervosa aka lsa........watch out, i jumped in at the deep end, was all going very well then it turned on me.......i need to be locked up. help.
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you are right though i am seriously considering calling it a day with the psychedelics especially, ironically this comes at a time when my drug use is already at an all-time low. Weird trip, it was good and bad. I guess I was expecting more of a mushroom high, I just didnt expect it to last 10 hours, had to ride my push-bike home whilst still far too high, and the foxes and deer on the road were freaking me out. woooo im alive and well.
I havent done it myself, I've heard varying reports about how good it is, my mate tried them and actively disliked them.
How was the nausea? Did you extract the LSA or just eat the seeds?
the actual trip was quite fun, very spaced and disjointed, was in my own world half the time (everyone else was doing shrooms).....i wish someone had told me about the nausea cos it was kind of on my mind the whole way through but i managed to control it......
trip started bout 8pm and was all going well til around 2am when one of my mates cut his vein on some broken glass (this is typical of him, and hes one of the only sober ones), then it all went wrong.......i saw the blood just gushing out of his arm and i think i went into shock (i have no precedent to go on cos ive never been in shock).........because your emotions and senses are so heightened, you find yourself quite suggestible to sights and sounds, plus the queasiness upped another level.......my legs went to jelly for a second and i half-blacked out, found myself convulsing on the floor for a few seconds (this isnt nice at the best of times, much less when on a trip), and i was just trying so hard not to be sick........it spun me out proper i went a little crazy, had to shut everyones voices out cos it felt like i was gonna die.........needless to say the rest of the trip was ruined, just wanted to sober up but was tripping for hours.......
if it wasnt for that the whole trip would probably have been quite enjoyable, some nice visuals and a general sense of well being.......the only weird thing was it felt like my mind was in another place, and my body was just a shell, it was hard to walk towards the end and while i was cycling back i kept stopping and looking down to find my legs just stopped cycling, had to work them through remote control and couldnt feel any pain ie lactic acid on those big hills, v. weird......
might try it again, still got 80 odd seeds left, but id do a much lower dosage and in the daytime, oddly enough i felt like raving at the beginning so maybe next time at fabric, but i doubt it.....
Interesting that you mentioned about the disjointed nature of it and your physical side effects. They are very similar to those described to me by the person I know who did them.
I certainly wouldnt do a hallucinogenic in Fabric, but then I hope never to set foot in Fabric again anyway, its a crap place. I havent been there since I did AMT there about 3 years ago now.
hmm have you had bad experience at fabric then? i still quite like it, dont go there every week so not bored of it yet.......but its all about the pills really, im not that clued up on AMT actually.........
when i took LSA i was very nausious (sp?) for the first 1 hour then i just lay down and the trip began from there, it lasted me about 12 hours, only 13 when i did it you see, somehow i had a connection with God and the universe, more than you'd get from ecstacy or mushrooms, the visuals are different aswell, its not a full blown trip but you just see wee objects floating dwn from the sky past your face, i thought it was quite good actually.
whats better then in your opinion LSA or shrooms?
As for Fabric, I've just found the drinks and entrance stupidly pricely, the people quite unfriendly, and lay out annoying, the lighting not all that good, the sound not very good and the mixing fairly shite. Turnmills is only 5 yards away and is much better.
tx bong ill have a look on erowid.......ha you think fabrics bad value for money, you should go to some of the clubs in cambridge, major let down......i agree tho, i dont buy drinks there just pop a bean and drink water the whole night (i am a student after all).....entrance is £10 with NUS which aint that bad........
only usally go on fridays (drum and bass night) which has some wicked mixing, cant comment about the rest of the week....the layout took me a while to get used to but i quite like it, pretty dark....n yeah i have met some pretty stuck up girls there ill grant you that, i go for the rave not really to pull tho.....prolly check out turnmills next year as i will be living in london, tx for the tip.
Granted there are a few coke dealers around but in the main they are fine, when I was there last they had enough bints so they werent bothering anyone.
In the clubs down here we just have pill dealers never come across anyone selling or giving away anything else.
Would like to see some people selling wraps of speed but i guess its easier dealing with tabs, Selling them at a fiver a pop too probably make more money as well considering they are bought in for a £1 each or so.
Someone tried to sell me one for a tenner last year because i must of looked completely desperate or just that gone he thought he`d try it on.
Cheeky **** really cos most pills nowadays around here are not even worth a fiver each, but you gotta allow them making a few quid profit to compensate for the risks they are taking.
If you got the balls to go and deal in clubs i guess you might as well be a oppitunist and be cheeky with the price when you think theres a good chance your pull it off.
They've been going for 3-4-£10 or £2.50 in the last couple of clubs I've been to.
The End and Fabric are the only places in the UK I've been offered coke in a club. I bought some in Fabric once (dam fool) and it was shite (big surprise!).
i`ve just grown out of pills now to be honest, for years they was the best thing since sliced bread to me but now i`ve moved on.
All good things come to a end i guess.
How much did you pay for that coke from fabric?
now thats high, if someone said £6 for a pill to me i'd be expecting some super pills, i can get certain pills for 90p
Rather recently i bought some in a club, cost £3. The most i've paid has been a fiver inside a club.
I'd gladly pay £5 each for decent pills.
As for how much I paid for the "coke" in Fabric, 45 or 50 I think, complete waste, it was 1/2g coke and then a crushed speedy pill by the feel of it.
The best club I've been to for dealing was one in Montreal, there was a bloke in one corner with combat trousers on. In the four pockets he had pills, speed pills, 1/2g raps of coke and 1g baggies of skunk. All top notch and not that pricey.
I don't find anything wrong with the quality of pills these days anyway, it does the job but probably yes there were better pills years ago.
And yes there are ways of knowing the quality, you test your pills and know/trust your dealer.
Doctor/dealer is a bit different.
Yes i could test my pills but that is too much bother and i don't know of anywhere close to me that sells a tester. Knowing and trusting your dealer is really nothing to do with what quality of pill you get, yes it gives a better chance of what you get but if your dealer gets a shit batch in one week then odds are you'll get it too.
A good dealer will not sell bunk.
That's useful, I have a headache and wondered if anybody had any ASPRIN!
If that isn't sarcastic, I was being sarcastic.