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tony blair Lied to us..... The sunday telegraph says so
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or at least yahoo says they do.
However, according to the Sunday Telegraph, the original draft gave the opinion that Blair had personally masterminded this misleading impression, calling into question his good faith.
I wonder how long before there is a rash of resignations at the Sunday Telegrqaph as there has been everywhere else where they have mistakenly criticised our beloved government.
such stange bed fellows... the BBC, the Mirror, the Sunday Torygraph
However, according to the Sunday Telegraph, the original draft gave the opinion that Blair had personally masterminded this misleading impression, calling into question his good faith.
I wonder how long before there is a rash of resignations at the Sunday Telegrqaph as there has been everywhere else where they have mistakenly criticised our beloved government.
such stange bed fellows... the BBC, the Mirror, the Sunday Torygraph
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Now that risk has been shown to be manufactured, Howard is against the war on the terms of that risk. He is still for the war on the basis of human rights.
Kennedy was never for the war. the Lib Dems are calling for another inquiry because neitehr inquiry so far has actually inquired about anything. the real questioons have not been addressed, because the Government has set the questions and the parameters of them.
Oh, and the Sunday Telegrpah is owned by the Barclay Brothers, so I don't expect any resignations any time soon.
he was against the lies but for the war. Read back over wehat he said after the Hutton "Report".
Do you not want to know if lying and corruption goes to the very heart of Government?
Do you not want to know the REAL reasons behind the war (even more complex than oil)?
Do you not want Bliar to be brought o justice?
Oh, no, hang on. You don't. You thrive on the bollocks pushed by Sky News, you lap it all like a little lobotmised poodle.
What has that got to do with the price of fish?
Please, elaborate. I'd like to know how your mind works.
If you think the war in Iraq was justified then you are not paying attention. Whichever reason you choose there is no justification, either because of lying or because of hypocrisy.
Geddit? Or are we back to the lobotomised poodle?
but ...some it would seem don't seem to give a flying fuck if the leaders of the 'free' world lie and manipulate the facts and the fiction to suit themselves and send 'OUR' ...country off to war.
is that realy the kind of poitical system you are happy to have?
he didn't even posess much of a conventional army when we invaded cos mr bush snr had destroyed all that and prevented it being rebuilt.
Much as I'd love to see that evil repulsive bunch of bastards out of office for ever, surely there is such a thing as an unacceptable price to pay? There are as many grounds as imposing regime change in the USA as they were in Iraq.
he was doing ok for himself trading with the west ...he was doing just fine for himself as our man against the mullahs ...re IRAN ...when we gave him everything and anything he asked of us ...
Here's something interesting that I was told the other week. Under a dictator such as Saddam, 90% of the population will be happy. Particularly if the coup that put the dictator in power was particularly bloody or long. The fear and hate eventually grows to love and soon they can't see how they ever lived without the dictator, or how they could ever survive without him. People vanishing without trace just becomes part of everyday life.
That has no relevance to this thread really but I just thought I'd put it out there. It's probably one of the reasons for the huge amount of resentment to the occupying forces (the occupying bit being part of the problem too.)
the point being ...our leaders don't seem to be that different than the ones we are taught to hate while omitting the truth about our own.
but ...your going to defend OUR decision to gas those people but not saddams ...aren't you?
Bush has WMDs and has threatened to use them in future conflicts. Score 1 for the mad Texan.
As you were saying, Bush continues to threaten other nations with war and destruction. Saddam had not threatened and more importantly he did not have the capability to realistically threaten or attack other nations for a number of years now. Score 1 for the mad Texan.
Saddam's government is guilty of appalling human right abuses including illegal imprisoment, unlawful killings and torture. And so is Bush's. Score 1 each.
Final score: Bush 4, Saddam 2. As you can see, there are more grounds for imposing regime change in the USA than they were in Iraq, by Bush and Blair's own logic.
War is almost never the answer. And it certainly wasn't in Iraq.