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How political are you?
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How strong are your beliefs? Do you go on protests, demonstrations or marches? Would you even take up arms to protect your beliefs or force them upon other people for the good of society (in your political opinion). Or is all you do vote?
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If the right political viewpoint was challenged I'd be the first in the queue to protest, though.
I did attend the march against Top-Up fees in London, but only really because the Student Union arranged all the transport etc etc. It's really sad to admit that if this hadn't been the case I probably would have stayed in bed that morning rather than getting my arse down there to stand up for something that I believe in, I think a lot of people are like this though - they have their views and beliefs but just lack the motivation.
Regarding things like abortion, mercy-killings, drug re-classification etc, I have opinions but they're just that. I don't see what I can do to change any of this, and no one else seems to do anything either...so I've become the thing I detest, apathetic. I'd rather someone had completely conflicting views to mine, than they were distinctly not concerned about things which are (directly or indirectly) affecting them and the people around them. Anyone else feel like that?
Waste of time in my opinion.
Tough sometimes they're needed to bring attetion to cases.
I didn't go on any anti-war protests because I disagreed with the stance, the same with tuition fees.
I also thought I was quite political until I was (rightly in most cases) buried by some of the more hardcore posters here..........
However, yeah I've been to marches and was part of a local anti-war group. Been on a peace march this year in Aberyswyth and whilst I got people threatening me, I did it anyway.
But as for the others involved... some were hardcore socialists and I talked to one guy who called somebody a 'fascist' because he had a different view point... Um... Ok
I've also written letters to the paper on some occasions.
All you defeatists raise your hands, and grease the old machine.
....until you're hardended to it all.
Anyway I would say I am quite political though I have not been that active yet. I am a member of Unite Against Fascism though well I think I am anyway
i also advise my mum on what policies the parties stand for in elections, and the roles of the bodies shes voting for, so she can make a proper decision, like not having UKIP in london assembly no matter what your views oneurope are
like what power the london assembly have over europe :rolleyes:
yeh fair enough, as they actually have other policies, but you cant vote for a single issue party in a election for where their issue isnt even a matter
and back to ukip, their MEP's getting paid for doing nought all now if the european parliament is as usless as they say it is, and USING OUR TAX MONEY AT THAT!
personally the important issues to me are health, education and universities, as in the future that issue will split the nation i reckon, over how they are funded etc etc
also tax credits are a matter for debate for the upcoming general elcetion, as its almost certain the tories would scrap them as "effieciency savings"
crime is still an important issue, and immigration as a whole should kept track of
oh and yes the green party are a single issue party but you cant say "we're green" unlike "we dont want to be in EU" so they have more feasible and far less vague even if theyre generally unwelcome policies
The current system of first "past the post" favours Labour and the Tories. Liberal Democrats do get quite a few votes in General Elections. In the 1997 elections the Lib Dems got 18% of the votes but only 52 seats, if you compare this to Labour in that election they had 40% of the votes and had 412 seats.
If the system was a proportional representative system then the Lib dems would have be a sizable party in the Parliament.
http://www.ukelect.co.uk/Jun2001Lead/GenElect.htm
Yes Europe is an issue; however they needs to be proper debate on the subject and not the misquoting scaremongering that the UKIP is involved in.
Why is immigration such an issue? Haven’t we shown you enough documented proof that the media exaggerate this problem and that Britain does not have as a big problem as is made out.
The European electrions are meaningless in terms of public concern, they always have been.
What people care about are education, health and crime. The same as they always have done, and always will do.
If Howard is brow-beaten into believing Europe actually matters he will lose the election. Badly. Just like Hague did, who should ahve stuck to health, education and crime.
It actually favours "seat-spotting" by the smalelr parties, which is unfortunate.
In 1992 the Lib Dems actually had a greater share of the vote than in 1997, but they had significantly fewer seats.
Single-issue parties gain a lot of votes in smaller elections, as protest votes. When it comes down to the crunch of a general Election single-issue parties such as the UKIP will be nowhere to be seen.
This is the thinking that Hague had in 2001. Europe was a big issue in the EUROPEAN elections, so he built his entire election campaign on the Euro. It was, in fact, the sixth most important issue in the elctorate's mind. Out of seven.
Europe is not a big issue in this country. As I have said before, if I told people that the trains would run on time, the schools would be good and healthcare would be good, but we had to have the Euro and be ruled from Brussels, there would be few who would turn that down in favour of "sovereignty" and the craptastic system we have now.
Labrat - nice idea but I'm interested to know how exactly you would propose society continues without a political basis? I'm sure you'd be very happy with no politics until you had to walk everywhere because public transport stopped running and your entire family died because the NHS ground to a halt, and the country began to die off because taxes were no longer paid and the economy collapsed?
That is a political stance.
Just because things aren't perfect doesn't mean you shouldn't participate in what exists to make the best of what you may think is a botch job.
That may be true, but no more so than most otehr political ideologies.
I happen to think that, as a theory, free trade liberalism is probably the best course of action. In an ideal world the weak will be protected by the strong without the need for taxation or force, and the able will be allowed to thrive.
Pipe dreams. A better one that communism, but still a pipe dream.
Don't vote- it only encourages them.
Even better to stage a bloody coup d'etat and make it me in charge.
I'd enjoy torturing Tory Plan B :yes: