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using ****** for food dish advert banned
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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/040705/80/excms.html
what next - spotted dick? :rolleyes:
*wow it been censored on here and i on about the food dish!*
what next - spotted dick? :rolleyes:
*wow it been censored on here and i on about the food dish!*
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*sigh*
Gay people used to be imprisoned for being gay until 1967, thats very very recently, still within living memory for a hell of a lot of people. Gay men have been killed for being gay, most of my gay mates have been queer bashed at some point, all still receive hateful abuse occasionally.
Just a few reasons why people get offended I guess.
Read the bloody thread.
Advertising complaints bulletin July 2004
Somerfield
Key 103 FM (Manchester); Heart 106.2 (Greater London);
Forth FM (Edinburgh and East Central Scotland)
Issue
A commercial featured a husband challenging his wife's
repetitive routine of a set meal for each day of the week.
While he wanted lasagne, he was told that, as it was Friday,
he was to have ******s. He responded: 'I've nothing against
******s, I just don't fancy them.'
Three listeners were offended, as they believed the
husband's response alluded to homosexuals, '******s' being
a derogatory term for them.
Response
The advertiser said: 'The ad refers only to food products.
'******s' were chosen to demonstrate the idea because they
are commonly perceived as an outdated and slightly comical
product, not because of any possible allusions to
homosexuality.' It also chose to reassure [us] that the ad
was on air for only five days and [did] not plan to run
the advert again.
The Radio Advertising Clearance Centre (RACC) confirmed
that the reference to ******s was clearly made in the
context of food and added that the script was one of a
number approved for a campaign to persuade people to
shop regularly and 'grab whatever you fancy, when you
fancy it.'
Decision
Irrespective of the advertiser's denial of intent and the
brevity of the campaign, we believed that the aired comment
was likely to have been perceived at best as innuendo. The
phrase 'I've got nothing against ******s, I just don't fancy
them' could clearly be seen in connection with
homosexuality. As the term '******', when used in this
context, is a highly derogatory term, we believed that it was
capable of causing serious offence. The advertisement had
therefore breached Section 2 Rule 9 (Good Taste, Decency
and Offence to Public Feeling) of the Advertising and
Sponsorship Code.
Conclusion
The advertisement must not be broadcast again in its
present form.
It's not the word that's a problem, but the context.
Brains F*ggots are a well known dish in this country, and have been around since before US culture invaded these shores. To suggest that it is therefore an offensive term generally would be to miss the historic context of the expression.
:yes: I wouldnt have found anything wrong with the use of the term f*ggot, but I think because its implying something with the pun, people were right to complain.
It is obviously a bad pun, but people do seem to complain about at the drop of a hat now. In fact, I'm sure people complain about the dropping of hats.
If Mary Whitehouse wasn't dead I'd want to kill her.
bloody grannies complaining i swear
To be honest, its a bad pun, but doesn't particlularly offend me. I can see why some people might be offended though.
okay thats on a different scale but you get me
theres also a fine line between a light hearted joke even if it is awful and blatant degradation and there is the possibility that the person who came up with that line actually meant it like that, as when i hear ****** i actually do think of the food 1st not the evil slang!
Fag=Cigarette
Fag got=Meat in gravy
Yes, differing power relations. Being a white heterosexual, you are in a majority in this society. You don't know what its like to be in a minority.
As one of my gay mates says, when asked why there is a need for gay clubs etc - "to me, the whole world is a straight club".
not when I made them...
at age 16 my first summer job was making sausages and fag gots. 40+ house a week for 8 weeks. talk about scarred for life
well he still has a biased view of the world
i go to any club, gay or straight! i go out just to have a good time dancing (badly) with mates, not to pull!
i know a lot of heterophobes and noone says anything aobut them
ive had racist abuse thrown at me (not literally
and my borough as a whole (Newham) has 55% non whites compared to 45% whites, but my town is almost all asian
and i know how minorites get treated, i was out with my gay friends one night and we got a load of abuse off chav scum and the typical drunk english louts drinking stella and it wasnt very nice at all
SO DONT GET ME STARTED ON HOW IM NOT A MINORITY AND DONT UNDERSTAND
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/profiles/00BB-A.asp
You are in a majority in this society. I'm not discounting your personal experience of where you live, but in this society as a whole, you don't know what its like.
and this is my ward...........
http://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/AreaProfileFrames.asp?TID=1&AREA=East+Ham+North+ward&AID=176350
so it not all in my head...
i know im a majority in this society, but i do know what it feels like to be treated like a sub-species
if you want to talk about whole of society, im in a minority in the whole world, being able to have access to decent food water and education and rights
seriously though blagsta everyone experiences some form of discrimination or degrodation in their life, and witnesses even more, havent you?
backto original topic though - there is a difference between a bad joke not meaning to offend, and actually offending a population, and 3 people complaining, thats soooo many! i bet they werent even gay themselves, dont you think some people just want to live in too much of a bubble sometimes?
like those councils who call xmas a 'winter festival' as not to offend minorites, when the minorities dont actually mind it being called xmas, its just some PC idiot in the council planning department
And it's also worth nothing that Ofcom is required by law to investigate all complaints, otherwise where would you draw the line? If 200 complain, 2,000, 20,000? Would you want to be the person who explained to the 1,999 people who complained that their complaints aren't valid because they were one short?
It's also worth looking at the reports in the television censorship thread to see the number of times that Ofcom do reject complaints.
and i fully agree they should investigate complaints, but from lots of cases i think they overreact too often and pander, you couldnt base a judgement on the fa**ot word because it does have mulitple meanings,one of which is was perfectly fine andused in the correct way, just quite cleverly put
and if it was banned for being a bad joke involving gays, then replacing 'fa**ot' with gays still has nothing wrong with saying 'gays, there nothing wrong with them, i just dont fancy them' which is also perfectly fine as it is!
okay not as bad as in america with the janet jackosn breast thing which was very accidental and funny but landed up being a multi million dollar lawsuit by apparantly responsible adults, not money grabber
i just wish i oculd find out if the people who complained were actually gay, bet they weren't!