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Upper class......Lower class
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With regards to different classes of people how do you think you socialise with other classes ?
I class myself as a decent person, not well off but I get by. Long as the bills are paid and I have food on the table im happy.
Ive never been a person who would spend a fortune going to plush restaurants as I firstly would feel out of place as I dont like this 'big act' that some people put on. I dont like the fact that some 'upper class' people look down on people like waitresses or cleaners. Ive seen in some restaurants where 'upper class' people treat staff as servants and I feel like telling them where to go. I often scrape any left overs from one plate onto another plate and pass them to the waitress when they come to the table, now some people would never do this, they seem to think of people like their servants and I hate it. I hate the way that some 'upper class' folk look down on me because of the fact that I dont talk posh and I dont have loads of money.
I dont really get on with 'posh' people because they are on a totally different wave length to me. I feel that they sometimes look down on me and that they think they are better than me.
So how do you get on with people from different class to you ? Can people from lower classes get on well with upper class people ? If you come from a well off family how do you feel about people who are not as well off as your family ?
I class myself as a decent person, not well off but I get by. Long as the bills are paid and I have food on the table im happy.
Ive never been a person who would spend a fortune going to plush restaurants as I firstly would feel out of place as I dont like this 'big act' that some people put on. I dont like the fact that some 'upper class' people look down on people like waitresses or cleaners. Ive seen in some restaurants where 'upper class' people treat staff as servants and I feel like telling them where to go. I often scrape any left overs from one plate onto another plate and pass them to the waitress when they come to the table, now some people would never do this, they seem to think of people like their servants and I hate it. I hate the way that some 'upper class' folk look down on me because of the fact that I dont talk posh and I dont have loads of money.
I dont really get on with 'posh' people because they are on a totally different wave length to me. I feel that they sometimes look down on me and that they think they are better than me.
So how do you get on with people from different class to you ? Can people from lower classes get on well with upper class people ? If you come from a well off family how do you feel about people who are not as well off as your family ?
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Come from a regular home, where we for gatherings celebrate with diplomats and cleaners.
It's really not an issue.
Why ? because im telling you that I dont like getting looked down at by people ? mainly 'posh' people. Like last week when I was away and a toff thought he could just barge into me as I was walking through the door, he thought it was 'MY' duty to stop for him. Nah, I dont think so...........so I told him where to piss off to, which he didnt like.
I know some posh people treat others ok, but there are many who think because they have money and drive flash cars they think they can look down on people like me.
You talk posh but your a canny posh un
You, was meant as in English folks.
Sorry, I thought you meant me directly.
Why would you never do that ?
I like to leave my table clean after me so I place all the used napkins on the tables and pass the plates to waitresses/waiters.........manners in my opinion.
From an economic perspective, a Marxist perspective or a social one.
can you believe the future cu ...c king of england ...pompous idle idiot.
it's fucking sad realy ...
Yeah thats true, if the waiter/waitress is a lazy sod then I wont do anything to help. Althought i still get rid of all the crap onto one plate like.....but they can do the rest.
Lol pompous not to scrape everyone's plates clean in a restaurant? Get off your moral high horse. I suppose you and the rest of the proletariat throw your own rubbish into the dustbin lorry aswell for fear of offending the dustmen.
With regards to mixing with other classes, as i just said a lot of my friends are what would be classed as 'middle class' However due to the grammar school i (used to) go to i would say that I have upper class friends also. For example, i know two of them who live in private roads in big houses. Also one of them moves house every so often to dodge tax or something, definatly upper class there :rolleyes:
In conclusion, well um yeah i would say i socialise with other classes.
Personally I see myself as a working class girl but I've never gone without, I live in a nice house, yes it might be ex council owned but it is far bigger than the Barratt Homes being purchased for quarter of a million quid these days.
Nah its not just people who eat in posh restaurants. Come on you must know the type of people I mean. Im talking the ones who talk posh, they act high and mighty, the ones that click their fingers and expect others to jump.
I class myself in the same kind of group as yourself. Working class with an ex council home which as you say is much bigger than a new Barrats home, in fact the size of mine is like a mansion compared to some of the new houses being build today. But forget about wether they have a big house, the people Im talking about are the 'snotty' folk...............come on you know what im talking about lol.
Some well off 'posh' people are just like many middle class working people. They may talk posh but they treat us with respect and dont look down on us. The guy I talked about earlier knew he had money and just his whole attitude annoyed me and the final straw was when he barged into me. He just showed no concern for anyone and I 'think' he thought that I should just say nothing to him but thats not me at all, regardless of who is is...............so I lost my rag
Don't be so quick to blame it on their finacial status, which you btw, know nothing about.
A lot of people live from loans that last from here to the moon.
Thats very true.
But he was a pompus posh git......honestly
aaaah, the old "everyone is middle class now" Blairite crap. :rolleyes:
I would say I can interact with both as I've had a mixture of both.
My g/f is middle class and I'm obviously a lot more common than her but she doesn't mind. On the other hand her sister is a complete snob so it depends on the person really.
While the middle and lower-middle classes mix well when they never used to. The underclass has developed a deep resentment of anyone above them while the upper class, celebrities and aristocracy remain "untouchable" to the mere mortals below them and seem to think we owe them something.
Can you honestly say you could come off a shift on the bin wagons and have a pint with Prince William?
But it depends on how you define class. A strictly Marxist definition is that there are only 2 classes - workers and owners of the means of production.
Those from the lower middle class and the underclass were once the same people but they either gained or suffered under Thatcher. The lower middle class man could be an ex-miner who got a new job on an industrial estate and bought his council house with the earnings while the underclass man could be an ex-miner who never got another job because there were none to fit his skills and has lived off state handouts.
Working class still exists. What would you call someone living on a council estate and working as a cleaner, if not working class?
People say things like they think I'm working class but I think I'm middle class. They don't oppose each other.
There are many classes and divisions as Blagsta said.
Lower classes, middle and upper are a different classification to working class and bourgeois.
I am working class and consider my self a "lower middle class". Even though when I talk I am considered posh(ish) or Australian.
Most of the population is working class, as they work for a living, they sell their work to the owners of the means of production...
Thats why I said it depends which definition you use. Yours here is a strict Marxist one. Trouble is, in the UK at least, there are many social and cultural factors too.
to be completely honest, when i go out with the whole social group, i tend to find myself being quite hostile towards those ones. i take the attitude, even though i really cannot help it, that they simply do not understand what it is like to really struggle in life (our family had had financial problems long before i was born). i seem to think they have it easy (even though i know money does not buy happiness). i guess its kind of crap to know that they have all the money to do what they want, and they go on their fancy holidays bi-yearly that i will never ever get to go on in a lifetime. i know this attitude i have taken (though i really honestly cannot help it and try to fight it) has made me put up a barrier towards them, and not got to know them as well as i could have. perhaps really they are great people? on the other hand, some in the group do look down on me, and the sort of behaviour i get up to (see, i dont have the money to spend friday and saturday nights in clubs and bars). has this made any sense? probably not.
Good point. I think the point I was trying to make was that there is no single image of the working class anymore. The last time there was a unified working class was pre-Thatcher. There is no spirit, only the belief that you're nothing unless you become middle class, get yourself into a shitload of consumer debt and buy your own home.
The working class spirit is gone. Working class used to be synonymous with community and resourcefulness. It doesn't mean that anymore. Nobody is proud to be working class.
I know quite a few working class people who would disagree with you there.
But I see your point, Thatcher did change a lot of it. Theres nothing wrong with being aspirational, but when you step on everyone's face to get there, its a bit shitty...