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Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
ok to cut a long story short. Some juvenile delinquents(sp) have decided to make my sisters life a living hell. These boys all 16 obviously have the mental capacity of 8 year olds and think its acceptable to try and fight a 12 year old girl.

Today 6 of these boys were waiting outside my sisters school for her and thanks to the intervention of my mum they never got the chance to do anything.

Now heres my problem, im pickin her up tommorow and i know if they are waiting again i can forsee a fight happening. Im 22 so the fact that there 16 shouldnt be a problem accept theres gonna be a fair few. Anyone got any ideas on how i can take down 6 guys - lol. Anyone ever had the odds stacked against them and came out on top. I really dont want to fight but these boys are the kind that end up in prison by the time they are 18 and i know there gonna start even if i try to talk rationally to them.

p.s dont know if im breakin forum rules here so apologies in advance if i have.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    don't make eye contact, unless they aproach you and if they do get eye contact and keep it, because that freaks people. make sure she stays in the gates until you pick her up. make sure you walk her to the car. let the school know. and possibly other parents. and make sure you have a mobile on you so you can call the police if you need. do you know basic blocks?? because they can be so much use. wear black. it intimidates people. try and blend in with the crowd. and get pepper gas and possibly a rape alarm(i know this sound silly but i carry on all the time and once when in a train station, i found a woman who had passed out and used it because i couldn't see anyone else, and the train attentents came running, but i'm not to sure if pepper spray is legal in england). have a rolled up magazine with you and if they try to go for you hit them with the end of it, NOT the side.

    hope this helps

    Luby
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    find a big geezer to go with you ...theres loads of them around.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by morrocan roll
    find a big geezer to go with you ...theres loads of them around.


    you volunteering yourself Rolly??? :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    You have the opportunity to be a life changing force in the life of your sister.

    teach her self respect and self esteem

    Fair enough - 16 year old kids are a force to be reconed with BUT....she (Your sister) most needs to know that she is not at fault, she is powerful, she can walk away and still be the winner.

    Why have these 16 year olds started to pick on a 12 year old??!! It's most bizzare. What on earth would a 16 year old have to do with a 12 year old unless they were related!

    If you know who they are report them. Arrange to be there for your sister and lead by example...walk away - be aloof if it's needed - fuck em...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hence the reason i said they have the mental capacity of a 8 year olds, basically they are tearaways who have no respect for anything or anyone and my sister was unfortunate to get on the wrong side of them..and yes i too question the idiocy of trying to fight a 12yo girl.

    Anyway my plan is just to try and knock out the biggest one first which will scare the others..:( i really am just annoyed that i have to be in this situation in the first place
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blnde_BombShell
    you volunteering yourself Rolly??? :p
    not this time ...i'm too far away and i'm getting to the age where i need to settle down a bit more but ...i did volunteer to escort chaos insomniac into school becuase of the grief he was getting over gay stuff a couple of years back ...he's all growed up now with a place of his own ... i figured if i walked him in and then gave him a big hug and a see ya laters ...would have had an effect for sure. what kind of effect is anyones guess ...
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    ClaireBearClaireBear Deactivated Posts: 467 Listening Ear
    Hiya,
    I know this is a difficult situation and you're worried about your sister but some of the advice other people have given is really good (like informing the school and telling her to stay inside the gates until you get there). You may also find the info in this article useful.

    Oh and just so you know, pepper spray is illegal in Britain so it's best not to add to your problems by carrying that.

    And one last thing, rather than working out how to take down six guys, it's best to try to avoid the need for that situation entirely, there's some information in this article that may help with that.

    Good luck,
    CB
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by byny

    If you know who they are report them. Arrange to be there for your sister and lead by example...walk away - be aloof if it's needed - fuck em...

    Ugh! For fuck sake NO!

    With these kindsa people, that is the worst thing you could do.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    never underestimate the violence and stupidity of 16 year old boys.

    you might think because your older, you can take them on, but there's just been an incident in leeds where a 16 year old boy stabbed another guy to death.

    i understand you want to protect your sister, but don't put both of you in danger to do it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    That's a tough one to call mate.

    Being the older brother it is natural that you want to protect your little sis. Violence, in my eyes, is the easiest option. Sure you could storm up and knock and few teeth out but are you gonna be about every day after school to pick her up?

    You say they are a gang of terraways but have you actually tried talking to them? Asked them exactly why they have a problem with your sis?

    Personally I would try scare tactics. Tell them that if they are hard enough to be picking on a 12yo girl then they're hard enough to get a kicking from her 22yo brother. Either one at a time or all together. Try and look confident. Maintain eye contact with the biggest fucker.

    If they start becomming all aggresive agree to a fight but not there and then. Make a date/time/place (you wouldn't want to have your sis about incase a quick getaway is needed) and bring along some mates to even up the sides. Once they see it's not gonna be 6 muppets V a single 12yo girl or even 6 muppets V her brother but 6 oh-fuck-what-have-we-got-ourselves-into-shit-scared muppets V 10 22yo I'm-gonna-rip-you-a-new-asshole guys they might think twice about things.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I would just take a few mates with me and beat them until i couldn't lift my arms. Not exactly the best advice in the world but fuck it, if a bunch of 16 year olds were trying to beat up my little sister i know i'd make sure they were pissing blood for a few days.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Fight fire with fire. Works for teenagers :yes:

    Although what pisses me off is a few years ago, if you got into a fight with someone, you'd have it there and then. If you got your arse kicked that was it, and mates wouldn't come into it. Now it's all about gangs, if you get into a fight with one person all their mates are automatically involved.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Doofay
    Fight fire with fire. Works for teenagers :yes:

    Although what pisses me off is a few years ago, if you got into a fight with someone, you'd have it there and then. If you got your arse kicked that was it, and mates wouldn't come into it. Now it's all about gangs, if you get into a fight with one person all their mates are automatically involved.

    Tell me about it!!:rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by girl with sharp teeth
    I'm interested to know how your mum stopped anything happening. Could you not do the same thing?

    they're hardly going to start on her with her mum there!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lucifer devil
    they're hardly going to start on her with her mum there!

    Well if they kicked off with a 12 year old girl...
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aspartame
    I was just about to say that, you bastard :mad:

    :p

    You've always been one step behind Mr Seed :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I can understand you wanting to protect your sister but do you really want to end up hitting children? They may be sixteen, but they're still not adults. I think it's disgraceful that they're picking on someone so young and I'm really sorry to hear your sisters situation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Songbird
    I can understand you wanting to protect your sister but do you really want to end up hitting children?

    They deserve it, so why the hell not.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i've not seen anyone mention going to the school or the police about it? sorry if someone has, i've not read all of the longer posts properly. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lucifer devil
    i've not seen anyone mention going to the school or the police about it? sorry if someone has, i've not read all of the longer posts properly. :)

    'Cause that'd be a stupid idea :/
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kiezo
    'Cause that'd be a stupid idea :/

    why?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lucifer devil
    why?

    Because the school won't do much, the police can't do much unless they actually hit the girl, and it's the reaction the kids are after too, oh and the fact that most kids like that couldn't care less about getting sent to a young offenders' centre.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Doofay
    Because the school won't do much, the police can't do much unless they actually hit the girl, and it's the reaction the kids are after too, oh and the fact that most kids like that couldn't care less about getting sent to a young offenders' centre.


    yeh, i see exactly what you mean. least if they do talk to the school or the police then it'll (presumably) be on their records.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    baseball bat and a crowbar will do the job lovely.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by turlough
    baseball bat and a crowbar will do the job lovely.

    yeh, and also get you a criminal record!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Only if you get caught.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by lucifer devil
    why?

    Londonboy described the type of people they are - the kind that'll no doubt end up in jail. We all know these kinds of people. If the prospect of jail doesn't deter them from commiting crimes, being reported to their school's hardly gonna make a difference either, is it? It'll only make the situation worse.

    Trust me, I've seen it happen to people before.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    state sponsored euthanasia for the under 30's is what i say.
    march 'em all to labour camps first so we can live off their pain. then euthableedinwotsitem.
    problems sorted.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    See ordinarily i'd say get a few mates and teach them a lesson. I got a younger sister as well and that would be my first thought.

    The problem is ... what affect will this have on your sister? From what you've said about them they sound like right fuckers. If you go down and beat the shit out of them is that gonna stop them or make them want to pick on your sister more? You can't pick her up every day so whose gonna protect her next time? Beating them up might piss them off enough to get worse with your sister.

    Shit, its a tough one ... not sure what advice i can give. I'd say go by yourself and don't start anything but don't back down. Their cowards ... 6 of them to a 12 year old girl! But there is 6 of them and they'll be looking to prove themselves in front of their mates. Just be confident, don't get nervous - look em right in the eye and tell them to fuck off.

    The only other thing i'd add is be realistic as to when/if it could kick off. If they start pushing and shoving you then its gonna be a fight and their just building themselves up to it. If that happens i'd spank the lad who pushes you (who'll most likely be the ringleader - either the cockiest or the biggest) at that point they'll either back off or go for you.

    Not the best advice i know, difficult situation. Just don't resort to violence until you know its gonna happen.
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