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Left wing
Right wing
Conservative
Please. It is kinda annoying not knowing.
Thanks
Right wing
Conservative
Please. It is kinda annoying not knowing.
Thanks
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Right Wing can mean either conservative, liberal or neo-liberal people. Liberals believe in the free-market capitalist state, and neo-liberals are basically a modern take on this belief, who stretch their beliefs towards globalisation of politics and commerce.
Conservative spelt with an upper-case C refers to the Conservative Party, who nowadays tend to follow a neo-liberal viewpoint. With a lower-case c it is used to describe people who believe in tradition and gentle change.
This is the general premise, though a lot of things confuse the issue. Many liberals believe in freedom of opportunity, and believe in a meritocratic state- equality is something the "left wing" agree with, though in a different way. Race confuses the issue greatly- the BNP, for instance, are fascist in terms of immigration and law and order, but believe in economic policy very closely aligned with socialism; as part of the belief in equality for all, many liberals agree with immigration as the theory is that a free-market will choose the most able staff as it is in it's own interests to.
Have a read of http://www.politicalcompass.org, it explains it reasonably well and has a quiz to see where you fit on the political spectrum.
rightwing = caring about self and makiing money
Left wing generally denotes socialist views, from Marxism to social democracy. Socialists believe in more economic equality.
Right wing refers to conservatism and fascism.
Conservatism is a belief that change should only occur when necessary; conservatives have an aversion to rapid change in a society.
It doesn't!
Conservatism and facsism are traditinally seen as right of centre ideologies. Besides facsism is not necessarily racist. Mussolini wasn't as racist as Hitler.
Still, if I may make some points:
Whereas the Left doesn't?
This one I take issue with. If you are any familiar at all with the philosophy of Right Wing/Conservative policies you will be aware that the Right only cares for the individual. Fuck society, fuck the poor, fuck public services, long lives greed and self-accomplishment at the expense of others
Right Wing mentality promotes a ruthless exploitation of natural resources for profit; denies global warming; ignores deforestation and extinction of species; supports polluting fuels and ignores health consequences and deterioration of life for both humans and the animal kingdom as a result.
And on the politic side of it, cherishes globalisation and free market trading- which is extremely harmful to Third World countries and continuously increases the gap between the a few privileged Western countries and the rest of the world; has a history of more aggressive foreign policy with a much bigger tendency to wage wars on others; and has a history of forming alliances with and supporting brutal regimes if they can gain financially or politically from it.
Some way of caring for the world...
Soft? In what way? Were Red Action soft? AFA? Baader Meinhof?
National Socialism (Nazism) and socialism are not the same.
Just pointing it out.
I never claimed to be unbiased.
yes I'm being pedantic about defintions, its how I get my jollys on a Saturday morning
I'd say that it depends on whether you're looking at left and right wing on the scale of human interactions and social status, or economics. For example...
Human interactions and social status
Left wing - Think Ghandi, or along those lines. Think about a break down of heirarchy related to genetics or socio-economic grouping and equal respect for all people. However, you could accuse some lefties of 'selective compassion'... but on the other hands it's the lefties who fight for equal rights.
Right Wing - On the far right you have fascism, kinda like Hitler. This is more heirarchical and more egoistic.
Conservative - Looking at the Conservative party, a lot of their beliefs are old fashioned. So in this instance they may believe a woman's place is in the kitchen, or have views about black people that could be considered 'racist'.
Economics
Left Wing - Communism/socialism/anarchy, equality for all.
Right Wing - Capitalism and so on... heirarchy (again), survival of the fittest on an economic scale.
Uhm... well I ain't a politics student, but I gave it a shot. I'd say Right wing is about heirarchy... generally speaking.
Huh? Your statement doesn't make sense and I NEVER SAID THAT RIGHT WINGERS ARE RACIST!!
:rolleyes:
The BNP (by the strictest definition) probably aren't even facsist, even though they do and have had racist policies.
Right wing simply means right of centre and traditionally conservatism and fascism are considered right-wing ideologies.
That doesn't mean ALL right of centre belief is racist in nature!:rolleyes: :eek2:
For instance i think a major hindrance to many socialist theories is a basic flaw in human nature. Perhaps its from thousands of years of monarchial society but we just love to have a ruling figure. King, President, Prime Minister, chairman whatever - we have to have someone at the top of the pile. Even communist governments have to have it. I think that tiny flicker of individualism, the fact that there is one person who, whatever is claimed, is more than equal than the rest ...well it just ruins it doesn't it.
I suppose it represents a goal, something to aspire to - awakens our competitive instincts because you know its possible to be more. Perhaps ambition is the scourge of society.
a little rambling and off topic but there we are
But some of them are.
And judging by your comments so far you're not that far off that end of the scale yourself.
Left wing = nice good people
Right wing = nasty bad people
right = wrong.
self and money cannot be good foundations for building a modern thriving society.
Fascism is not necessarily Nazism.
And I seem to remember that this has been done- regardless of any ulterior motive, Nazi economic policy resembles socialist economic policy. I also seem to remember that the source you cited said that they DID follow some socialist economic principles, but for non-socialist reasons.
Besides which, the BNP aren't coherent enough to say that they have an ideology, even one as abhorrent as National Socialism.
Any simple definition is complex, because politics doesn't simply work on a left-right axis. True liberlas are right-wing, but they welcome all immigration as there should be no barriers between states in terms of economic or migration policy.
The only difference between left and right is that the right has money and wants to keep it, and the left wants to "re-distribute" it away from the rich into their own pockets.
Those without want to get some, those with want to keep it. It's called human nature.
pot kettle black innit
I agree with this.
Not true really. Yes, the right want to keep their money, at the expense of others. The left want to redistribute it equitably so everyone has some.
Slippery concept, human nature...
AFA! I'm thinking about a certain band, any connection there?