FAO Lukesh - tips for posting.

Former Member

Lukesh and other newbies, let me give you some tips because I sincerely believe we need some more right-wingers and conservatives on this board.

My political views are to the left but I never draw my sources from the Daily Mirror as within a political debating forum I know tabloids are never taken seriously due to the fact they are not that serious papers.

If you wish to use a right wing source, The Times and The Telegraph are the best UK newspaper sources. Other than that the BBC is considered as a good source.

The other option is to use google to research and back up your facts with a credible source as I did with my post in the 'Prisons' thread. It took me two or three minutes to find that source all I did was enter the keywords 'Prisoners UK TV Licences' hey presto!

However you do not need to produce a source if you are expressing an opinion as opposed to stating a fact.
Theres nothing wrong with saying something you believe in but you will be challenged if you make a strong statement as a fact.

Hope this helps.

(Other regulars/Mods on these boards please add your tips or suggestions but please no personal flaming or sarcasm as this thread is to encourage newbies, you know dull it gets when we all have the same opinion)

Former Member

Hell, newbies are always welcome so long as they are intelligent enough to listen to what people are saying, and humble enough to disagree without using the c-word.

Might educate a few of them yet:)

Former Member

No, theres quite a few.

Former Member

It's about 50/50.
However most here are open to persuasion or at least a good debate.
If you want blind rhetoric goto Urban75.com they think everything involving the use of money in exchange for goods or services is heresy.

I'm Middle Way, agree with right wingers on the police and military and how to teach kids to behave, but left wingers on immigration, NHS and schools.

Former Member

That's up to you, I'm not too bothered if 0.3% of the population were born elsewhere.
Give it a couple of generations and they'll be as British as the rest of us.

Former Member

Originally posted by Whowhere
If you want blind rhetoric goto Urban75.com they think everything involving the use of money in exchange for goods or services is heresy.

Just goes to show you're never actually read it. Just going for the typical knee jerk response. Kind of proves my point on the other thread about rightwingers.
U75 runs the whole gamut from anarchists and Marxists to Liberal Democrats, liberals, Tories and hard right neo-liberals. But its slant is left, just like the slant on here is right.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
The only problem with immigration is these bogus asylum seekers.

Which ones? The ones you read about in The Sun?

Former Member

.

Former Member

Perhaps those leaning left think the boards are right-leaning, and viceversa.

I for one think the boards are right leaning. In particular regarding immigration issues, and especially when you consider the immense majority of users are teenagers or people in their early twenties. If anything you would have thought that young people are mostly free of the prejudice that affects so many old folks...

Former Member

Originally posted by girl with sharp teeth
I've always thought that the general slant on these boards was left. That's quite interesting. There are right wing posters, but most of the major posters are left, as are the mods I suspect.

Definintely a right wing slant, when it comes to immigration, race and law and order.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
but Liberal are the majority yes?

I'd say the boards are fairly leftish... but only slightly. We have a fairly even balance on some issues.

As for myself... I dunno, a sort of eco-socialist type person? Green all the way man Not that it ever shows in any of my posts.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
no the ones I see with my own eyes and the ones you don't want to believe.

Can you tell who is a "bogus" asylum seeker, just by looking at them? Are you Superman?

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
lol, theres no point at all asnwering that question. your never going believe me. just keeping saying to yuor self that asylum and immigration is not out of control and that we are not letting enough bogus asylum seekers in.

How do you know who is a bogus asylum seeker by looking at them? Come on, should be easy enough for you to answer.

Former Member

And this is why it's been suggested to you that you stop reading that ridiculous racist rag and switch to a proper newspaper...

Former Member

Go on luke, how do you tell "bogus" asylum seekers? Telepathy?

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
lol... get a life. where do you luive in some posh pl;ace where the real world is cut away?

At least I don't live up Rupert Murdoch's arse

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
just looka t them... then find 90% of them and they are the bogus ones.

"just looka t them" So you can tell peoples life story by looking at them?

You're fucking deluded pal.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
90% of asylum seekers in this country are bogus.

Source?

I suggest you read this
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/news/myths/myth001.htm

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
extermely biased. thats would say that wouldn't it.

Errrr...they're an NGO working with asylum seekers, I think they know a bit more about it than you do.

So where did you get your figures from then?

Former Member

Still the truth.

At least it presents verifiable data... as opposed to your beloved S*n or the Daily Mosley who create big scary headlines out of rumours and half truths that turn out to be utter bollocks.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
if you believe that rubbish, you'll believe anything. the real world will open up to you one day. why not come to stoke and check it out?

Check what out? Thousands of 'bogus' asylum seekers roaming the streets, living in 8-bedroom houses and driving Ferraris thanks to the thousands of Pounds they get paid by the government in benefits?

Former Member

And attempting to kidnap Victoria Beckham.

And eating our donkeys and swans.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
if you believe that rubbish, you'll believe anything. the real world will open up to you one day. why not come to stoke and check it out?

And how old are you? How much of the world have you seen?

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
it's a fair example. an example of what mess this country is beecause we are under this liberal government.

We don't have a Liberal government.

Former Member

I'm twice your age. I think I know a little bit more about life than you.
Its normal though, when you're 16 to think you know it all. I did.
Just be aware that you actually know very little about people and life.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
they are close to it.

Not in the slightest.

Former Member

You obviously have a comprehensive and deep knowledge of current affairs, immigration, criminology, wealth, education and society that we must be lacking.

You've done very well for a 16-year old kid. You've learnt all these experiences of 'the real world' from the S*n?

Former Member

LOL

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
I don't know it all, i know very little, theres so much to know. but you guys don't understand what is really happening in these places. you think that asylum isn't an issue it is and it won't get sorted until you realise it.

Errrr...I do know. I lived in Birmingham for 10 years, I have friends who work with asylum seekers, I've even known some socially.
I've also lived in Sheffield, Wolverhampton and Brighton, so I think I've had a bit of experience of different places.
I currently live in the London Borough of Lambeth, one of the most ethnically diverse areas in the country, so I do know, thanks.
So don't tell me what I do and don't know.

Former Member

Originally posted by lukesh
do you realise that asylum is a big sissue?

Only in the minds of those who hate foreigners

Former Member

Yep.