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Is it any wonder
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.............why we have high rates of violence. Take a look Here .
This is a case where a lawyer was attacked and now will probs never work again, the offender got 2 1/2 yrs.
Please can someone tell me how she can get off with just that ?
We all know with good behaviour how long she will get. So what is your opinion ?
This is a case where a lawyer was attacked and now will probs never work again, the offender got 2 1/2 yrs.
Please can someone tell me how she can get off with just that ?
We all know with good behaviour how long she will get. So what is your opinion ?
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i dny know the stry lucky but ...offences of violencd should be given top senmtnececs as far as i'm concerned ...expt those against burgls an perpertratos odf ...i'll get it grhtr in a mo ...patence ...
what a bloody cow. "Tony Davis, defending, told the court how Young had been drinking heavily on the night of the attack to overcome the pain of a family bereavement." - so next time one of my family members kicks the bucket I'm 'ok' (or more ok) to attack people.
If she knew she had such a tendency, she simply shouldn't drink. And 2.5 years is too little for someone who did this, no matter what the reason (self-defence excluded).
My brother, little shrimpy lookin' guy (Mr Roll will back me up, he ain't a big lad) was apparently waiting in a taxi office with his puppy and some bloke threatened to kick his head in and hurt his dog. Now there's no way in hell that my brother would provoke a fight. He ain't the fighting type, y'know?
It just puzzles me some time why people do that, pick a fight with somebody they know they can hurt easier. Used to get it in local rock nights too. Lads would go in and look for gay younguns to target. Most gay lads I know aren't really very butch and built for fighting.
For males who do this, you could often blame the mix of testosterone with the usually awful way they've been brought up by their parents. But for females, there must be something much worse.
Why must there- women are just as capable of being angry as men.
As for the case, if the facts are as spelt out in the article then that penalty is too low, and it is about time that the Attorney General is granted power to appeal sentencing and acquittals- something that I have believed in for quite some time. Just as defendants can appeal, prosecutors should be allowed to appeal tariffs and even acquittals if there has been a mistake of law.
But, as always, the mental state of the defendant should be taken into account when dealing with sentencing. The article doesn't say how much remorse she feels, the article doesn't state what the family bereavement was; those facts obviously don't fit into the whole tone of the article, which is yet again all about attacking the judicial system that we have. Like it or not, circumstances have to be taken into account, and those circumstances are not clear in the article.
One thing that I tire of very quickly is people ripping the judicial system to shreds for apparently "disgusting" decisions when they do not know the facts of the case. And in ALL news articles the facts are not made clear, unless they suit the agenda of the journalist.
still though.. this girl has ruined someones life through a violent act that she undertook of her own free will.
Define free will.
Otherwise beaten wives who snap and kill their husbands can be said to have "ruined someones life through a violent act of her own free will" and should have the book thrown at her accordingly.
I'm not saying her cicumstances justified, or even excused, what she did, but the point is that, unless you sat in court to listen to all the evidence, then you do not know what those circumstances are.
What is clear or I beleive to be clear is the fact that alcohol was the main characteristic of this case. Forget about the mental state because i personally feel this would not have been an issue, the issue is she was pissed and lost it.
Alcohol yet again the cause of violence and using her bereavement is no excuse.
The fact of the matter is alcohol education isn't really working. People are just too irresponsible! Not saying that I'm a beacon of light or anything like that; just that alcohol is actually a problem. It's 'fun' to get pissed.
Alcohol is becoming more of a problem in the UK.
The problem is not alcohol, the problem is social attitudes to it.
In continental Europe alcohol is treated differently, and the alcohol-fuelled violence is not even slightly as bigf a problem as it is here. In Europe children are encouraged to drink young, it's seen as something to accompany a meal and it's seen as something to enjoy in moderation; watered-down wine for young children is common on a lot of dinner tables, especially in France, Spain and Italy.
What we have over here is bhinge-drinking- the attitude is thast you must get as much down you as you can before the pubs shut, and when the pubs shut everyone is kicked out at the same time. People drink too much because they can't just have a few at a leisurely pace, they have to cram them in before last orders. Especially at 10.30 on a Saturday night.
Social attitudes need to change, but I don't think that they will. Just as sex is, alcohol is seen as "adult" aqnd something big people doo- that's why kids get pissed as soon as they can. I grew up with alcohol- a sip of beer or wine, then a bit more, and I'd like tot hink that I'm a sensible drinker because of it- I stop when I feel tipsy.
But all this is another debate:p