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The stupidity of driving laws
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Please read this storyBBC News - Teenager escapes fine by sitting quietly
and consider this.
My freind has just lost his license. He now has to retake his theory and practical test and apply for a new provisional. Because he had been driving for a year and nine months (if you get six or more points on your license before you have been driving for 2 years you lose it and have to do it all again.
And this guy had not license, tax, mot AND was caught with block. :eek: :crazyeyes
OK nothing too serious there but for fucks sake at least punish the guy for the laws he has blatantly flouted!
and consider this.
My freind has just lost his license. He now has to retake his theory and practical test and apply for a new provisional. Because he had been driving for a year and nine months (if you get six or more points on your license before you have been driving for 2 years you lose it and have to do it all again.
And this guy had not license, tax, mot AND was caught with block. :eek: :crazyeyes
OK nothing too serious there but for fucks sake at least punish the guy for the laws he has blatantly flouted! 0
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I have my test tomorrow!!
My friend ran a red light by 1.5 seconds and was clocked at 50mph in a 40mph zone.
Imagine if these rules were applied to eveyone equally, there'd be no-one on the roads!
:chin: might help solve the congestion problem:D
He was desparately unlucky, but so might have been the kid that ran out in front of him i accept.
What is so stupid is the amount of times i have seen motoring offenders with no tax, mot, license, insurance get off with £100-400 fines! ridiculous behaviour.
The actual application of motoring law is inconsistent at best.
Sickening as the fact may be but I wouldn't change it for the world unless it was somebody I knew.
.:Crispy:.
How stupid is that?
Perhaps they should do what they do in Finland and link fines to income- so no matter how rich, the offender thinks twice before doing it again. Recently a driver there
was fined £116,000 for a simple speeding ticket. :eek:
Don't get me wrong. They deserve to be hit back hard. But I can't see the joy over the fact that people with more money get charged more.
It's immature and only implies a "if I don't have the money, then I'd be happy to see someone else get it taken away from them" mentality, when adding the smileys and whatnot.
How was he unlucky? Is he blind? Could he not see the road signs he learned for his theory test. Was he not aware of red lights during his Test? I would say he's a bit stupid but not unlucky!
bit harsh, you assume that he willfully did this.
when ur out driving (if ur out) how many times have you found yourself creeping over the limit (he was caught on a 1/2 mile stretch which was downhill.
Now i agree that he should have been paying attention at all times and that if he was caught he should face the consequences like everyone else BUT those are elemetery mistakes. While it does not mitigate them it is a common mistake all motorists at sometime make.
Maybe you should consider the whole set of circumstances before using words like 'stupid', instead of saying
'well he should have had his eyes on the road'
Yeah - today - on my driving lesson (Last but one before my test tomorrow) I went over the speed limit, slightly - by a few miles.but the difference between 40 and 50 mph is a lot really!
What I was trying to say is that when you take your test and sit the theory test are you not kind of signing up to a contract that says 'I know the rules and I have to accept the consequences if I break them' ?
i dont know if u know southampton but we have a sainsburys and behind theres a dual carriageway thats 40mph.
If you didnt know better you'd swear it was national speed limit, but then again thats what we've got signs for:D
generally i think though what is significant about my comparison ( i should have stated this waaaay earlier!):rolleyes: is that such examples could be seen as motivating (particuarly those who dont have much money) to just buy a car and drive!
that guy in the story is just one example, when im reading the local Echo at work theres always some guy who's just been fined some silly amount for some ridiculous motoring offence, i dunno maybe theres just something in the water down here
how did u do on your test? (hope u passed)
People who drive without insurance, MOT or tax should face prison as a meaningful deterrent, especially as these are the people who rarely pay their fines.
For you and me and most others being fined £80 or £150 is a pain in the arse, and though it won't bankrupt us you sure as hell try to avoid getting fined.
But for a bloke that is worth hundreds of millions of Pounds £80 feels like 5p to you and me. If you liked speeding and the law in your country imposed fines of 5p, would you care?
Exactly.
The £120,000 is not going to bankrupt that bloke. But it is going to make it feel like £80 to you and me. That is a spot-on idea and it should be implemented worldwide. I don't think anyone could claim it to be unfair.
And yes, I am delighted that for once the super-rich can feel the wrath of the law like the rest of us mortals. Isn't justice supposed to be blind? I've seen too many cases of rap stars, footballers or other celebrities parking on double yellow lines even as they attended Court and laughing at the £60 fine they got for it. Well, let's make it £60,000 and see if they still laugh.
It works out to about 1.7% of the income he earned in one year which makes it about average for a fine (in the UK). Do you think he should be liable for a percentage less than everyone else?
Its no different than tax, as for the joy/smilies thing, I'll leave that for you and Aladdin to discuss.
It makes sense. If the punishment for a crime is a fine and the aim of this fine is to act as a deterrant and a punishment then a fixed level fine has virtually no deterrant or punishment effect for the minority of very rich people for whom an ordinary fine a tiny amount of money......
What do people think to the idea that the punishment for any less than totally minot driving offence should be a permanent life long ban on driving?
I don't think it does.
The problem with fixed penalty notices is that they unfairly poenalise the poor- if you earn £100 a week, £60 is a LOT of money, but if you earn £100,000 a week it's the equivalent of a Mars Bar. The law should apply fairly to all, and fixed penalty notices do not.
What this case shows more than anything is that magistrates are outdated, outmoded and not in the real world. Generally maigstrates are those who can afford to give up their time- i.e. elderly people- so I've thought for a long time that magistrates should become professional, meaning that they can attract a wider scope of person for the job.