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Trade Union Scroungers

Those in the North East will be aware of the long-running pay dispute between the two most greedy and obnoxious trade unions- the RMT and Amicus- and Nexus, operator of the Metro.

Basically what it boils down to is that Nexus offered a fair and reaonable pay rise- agreed through ACAS- which the greedy unions rejected, saying that it was an insult to their members. What is the real insult is not the pay offer, but the fact that the strikers cannot be sacked because of their greed. Showing no regard for anyone but themselves- as always- they have been striking this weekend, bringing the North East to a standstill because of the timing of their strikes. Since Friday the Metro has been running a severely disrupted service- when there has been one at all- and what is the extent of the compassion to the travelling public from these unions?
We have to remember this is not a tea party, we are in an industrial dispute.

This from a union who RUINED people's Christmas shopping by striking every Saturday up to Christmas.

All they care about is themselves, there is no regard at all for the travelling public, the people who will ahve to foot the bill for their grotesque demands. When the demand is fair- such as with the AUT or the FBU- then I support industrial action, but the RMT and Amicus are notorious for being greedy, lazy, overpaid tossers.

If I had my way every single one of the drivers who is striking would be sacked- after all, if they don't like the job, there are plenty of otehr people who would be delighted to do it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Yeah, they knew what they were going to get paid before they started. My wage isn't brilliant, but I knew before I started what it would be.
    anyway, ffs no offence but they're train and bus drivers, how much do they think they deserve to get paid?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Can we have some figures of the drivers' current pay, increase proposed by the company, increase proposed by the unions and last by not least the pay the company's CEOs get and last year's profits?

    I am asking because I don't know the details of this particular case but what I know is that the word 'greed' is associated with firms' CEOs and shareholders much more easily and accurately than with blue collar workers or unions.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    The drivers earn on average £26,000 and the proposed wage increase, backdated by six months, was 5.5%.

    Nexus is a public company, it is the Tyne and Wear Passenger Transport Executive, funded by the five councils of Tyne and Wear, i.e. the passengers they are fucking over. Nexus made a serious loss last year, due to extensions.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    the bloody aut are continuing action after the strikes they had 2 weeks ago by not marking any work, which is a real shitter for finalists at this time of the year as its final dissertation and project hand in times which are a considerable part of the grade.....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    The drivers earn on average £26,000 and the proposed wage increase, backdated by six months, was 5.5%.

    Nexus is a public company, it is the Tyne and Wear Passenger Transport Executive, funded by the five councils of Tyne and Wear, i.e. the passengers they are fucking over. Nexus made a serious loss last year, due to extensions.

    £26,000 is not a great pay compared with similar positions down South, but that's the way things are. I must admit though that 5.5% rise is not a bad offer. How much are the unions demanding?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    The drivers earn on average £26,000 and the proposed wage increase, backdated by six months, was 5.5%.

    Nexus is a public company, it is the Tyne and Wear Passenger Transport Executive, funded by the five councils of Tyne and Wear, i.e. the passengers they are fucking over. Nexus made a serious loss last year, due to extensions.

    How much do the bosses get?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aladdin
    £26,000 is not a great pay compared with similar positions down South, but that's the way things are. I must admit though that 5.5% rise is not a bad offer. How much are the unions demanding?


    You also have to remember that a crummy terraced house up here still only costs in the region of £60,000 whilst the same house in sarf landan might cost upwards of £150,000.
    A pint of Stella may cost a geordie about £1.80. last time I looked Wetherspoons in London were charging at least £2.50.

    £26,000 a year is a lot of money, and it's certainly more than i expected a bus driver to be getting, especially as research scientists at universities are on about the same amount.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: Trade Union Scroungers
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Those in the North East will be aware of the long-running pay dispute between the two most greedy and obnoxious trade unions- the RMT and Amicus- and Nexus, operator of the Metro.

    Basically what it boils down to is that Nexus offered a fair and reaonable pay rise- agreed through ACAS- which the greedy unions rejected, saying that it was an insult to their members. What is the real insult is not the pay offer, but the fact that the strikers cannot be sacked because of their greed. Showing no regard for anyone but themselves- as always- they have been striking this weekend, bringing the North East to a standstill because of the timing of their strikes. Since Friday the Metro has been running a severely disrupted service- when there has been one at all- and what is the extent of the compassion to the travelling public from these unions?



    This from a union who RUINED people's Christmas shopping by striking every Saturday up to Christmas.

    All they care about is themselves, there is no regard at all for the travelling public, the people who will ahve to foot the bill for their grotesque demands. When the demand is fair- such as with the AUT or the FBU- then I support industrial action, but the RMT and Amicus are notorious for being greedy, lazy, overpaid tossers.

    If I had my way every single one of the drivers who is striking would be sacked- after all, if they don't like the job, there are plenty of otehr people who would be delighted to do it.

    facist
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    :lol:

    Especially as the transport workers he is on about get paid more than police officers and research scientists anyway, i think we have every right to call them greedy bastards.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    The drivers earn on average £26,000 and the proposed wage increase, backdated by six months, was 5.5%.

    Well, I'm sure that they have the total support of the local Royal College of Nursing then... :rolleyes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: Re: Re: Trade Union Scroungers
    Originally posted by girl with sharp teeth
    :confused:

    are you actually qualified to use that term? you don't seem to understand fascist ideology.

    are you qualified to use any statement, traditionally trade unions are left wing, facism is to the extreme right, i was taking the piss, sorry if you got confused
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    How much do the bosses get?

    That's not really the point, is it?

    Nastroman: what the AUT are doing is a complete arse, but I think that they are asking for a reasonable pay increase, so I support them. It was the same with the FBU last year.

    Turlough: What's a facist? You can't mean fascist, because the word has no relevance to complaining about greedy bastards screwing me over whilst demanding exuberant amounts of my money.

    Aladdin: The unions aren't being forthcoming with the figure, but originally they demanded 5.5% backdated, with a slight redeuction in the working week. Nexus agreed to this, and the unions then moved the goalposts.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit

    Turlough: What's a facist? You can't mean fascist, because the word has no relevance to complaining about greedy bastards screwing me over whilst demanding exuberant amounts of my money.

    Hitler got rid off all trade unions and made up governemt type unions, he was a facist, and most right wingers (thatcher) try to privatise everything, i culdn't give a shit about trade unions, i was simply taking the piss.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think Turlough it's best to place this --> ;)

    next to humourous remarks to avoid confusion.


    I HATE YOU!
    ;)


    See? It works :p
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Aspartame
    What were you on about, turlough?

    why did you consult the dictionary to look up facism? :confused:

    trade unions are seen as political opposition, they certainly have power, it seems that unions are the anti-thesis of facism, what were you on about?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Turlough, thats three people who've bitten so far, how many do you reckon you'll get? :lol:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    That's not really the point, is it?

    Yes it is, its entirely the point. You rarely seeing bosses getting laid off, having to take paycuts or being denied wage increases do you?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by turlough
    why did you consult the dictionary to look up facism? :confused:

    Maybe you need a dictionary. The term is "fascist".
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Yes it is, its entirely the point. You rarely seeing bosses getting laid off, having to take paycuts or being denied wage increases do you?

    Nobody is making these greedy bastards take a pay cut :confused:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Kermit
    Nobody is making these greedy bastards take a pay cut :confused:

    I'm not saying they are.

    Anyway - how much do the bosses get?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blagsta
    Anyway - how much do the bosses get?

    I don't know, I don't think it's that much. Certainly not compared to similar positions in the private sector.

    But then again, the bosses wage doesn't have make any difference to how greedy the RMT are being. The RMT AGREED a deal, then reneged on it, screwing the people who pay their wages into the ground.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I don't know much about this specific case, but my gut feeling tends to support the workers over the bosses.

    But maybe I'm just an unreconstructed lefty.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by turlough
    Hitler got rid off all trade unions and made up governemt type unions, he was a facist, and most right wingers (thatcher) try to privatise everything, i culdn't give a shit about trade unions, i was simply taking the piss.


    It's just a pity that the Nazis were extremely left wing in their policies, or you may have a point.
    Why do you think the correct term for Nazi is National Socialist...?
    Hitler made sure there was full employment, excellent free hospitals before the UK had the NHS, and ensured that all children were in school and college education. He would have made an excellent home secretary or prime minister. it's just a pity his foreign policy was a bit crappy.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    It's just a pity that the Nazis were extremely left wing in their policies, or you may have a point.

    Oh dear.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Whowhere
    It's just a pity that the Nazis were extremely left wing in their policies, or you may have a point.
    Why do you think the correct term for Nazi is National Socialist...?
    Hitler made sure there was full employment, excellent free hospitals before the UK had the NHS, and ensured that all children were in school and college education. He would have made an excellent home secretary or prime minister. it's just a pity his foreign policy was a bit crappy.


    And Mussolini got the trains running on time.

    Well done Whowhere its about time someone told us the truth about Hitler, such a misundertood and lovable type of guy, did you know he was also a vegetarian and loved children? Well not all children but hey whats a few million subhumans eh?

    Its refreshing to think that our nations police officers hold such balanced and educated views, I for one shall sleep safe tonight knowing your out there.

    Yours Truly

    BA

    :wave:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by BlackArab
    Well done Whowhere its about time someone told us the truth about Hitler, such a misundertood and lovable type of guy, did you know he was also a vegetarian and loved children? Well not all children but hey whats a few million subhumans eh?

    So, are you suggesting that everything he did was bad then?
    Its refreshing to think that our nations police officers hold such balanced and educated views, I for one shall sleep safe tonight knowing your out there.

    Actually it refreshing to see that our Police sometimes see more than just the bad in a person...

    Just because he can see some of the benefits which Hitler brought to Germany doesn't make him a Nazi.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Man Of Kent
    So, are you suggesting that everything he did was bad then?



    Actually it refreshing to see that our Police sometimes see more than just the bad in a person...

    Just because he can see some of the benefits which Hitler brought to Germany doesn't make him a Nazi.

    Hitler brought benefits to some of Germany but only at the expense of Jews and other minorities, trade unionists, left-wingers, communists, Christians, the disabled, half of Europe etc etc etc

    Actually I find it depressing if Whowhere or anyone else cannot see that.
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