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Suicide?

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Hi, my name is Hannah im 24 years old and i come from Bedford.
I love it here in Bedford, but thats not the issue.

What is the problem is that i am 24 years old and ive never had sex, ive never even had a boyfriend or touched a lad in that way, or anyway really!

I dont have a job, which i really dont mind, as the government supports me nicely with my JSA so i can spent all my time productively posting on various football internet forums.
And can afford to sit doing nothing all day and still afford to go and watch football every weekend.
I dont mind this, but everyone calls me because of it it just makes me want to cry.

Another thing they call me about is the fact i have no friends, i dont go out and socialise, well other than football at the weekend i dont leave the house really.

I dont mind it, i like staying in, letting my mum cook my dinner for me, but they all make my life so miserable, i just wish i was dead :(:(

I was just looking for advice about vibrators really, which should i get to brighten up my none-exsistent sex life? or should i just put everyone out of their misery and end it all?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    aww hunny, firstly *hugs*. it must of taken alot of guts to post that and you should be proud of yourself!!
    there's nothing wrong with being a virgin at any age - at the end of the day you shouldn't sleep with just any1, it should be with somebody you love.
    DONT END IT!!!! seriously, you've got loads to live for. life is what you make of it, so if not having mates is upsetting you - then go make some. try getting a part time job, at a local supermarket for example. you'll make loads of friends that way.
    why not just get chatting to somebody at football - just start a random converstaion about the teams, etc.
    Dont listen to those sad people who call you - because at the end of the day, every1 has insecurities, they will aswell.
    please dont do anything silly though, try talking to your family about things.
    in my opinion, you dont want to get a vibrator before you've slept with someone. im not saying that you shouldn't, im just saying it may be better if the first time you feel something going into you , its part of a guy who you :heart: or really like.
    if you wanna talk anymore, email me at : spongebobsgirl@hotmail.com
    keep smiling chuck+let us know how you feel soon :):):D:D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Urm................................

    Bopz :crazyeyes
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its just that im so shy i cant get a job people dont understand im just so shy im unable to get a job
    That is why i dont go out drinking or anything too, i dont really mind not having friends its just other people call me about it

    To be perfectly honest i dont even want a job, i get paid frolm the government anyway.

    Also i dont want a boyfriend anyway, he would just get in the way of my football

    Just a vibrator would let me get rid of all my urges right?

    I dont mind my situation so much its just that everybody who finds out about it makes my feel tortured
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well, alls i can suggest then is buy a vibe!! have you tried using your fingers, may be less uncomfortable - as you may not have broken your hymen.
    its good to see that you are happy with our life (apart from these people), and that's all that really matters - YOUR FEELINGS!!!
    just ignore these people. i know how hard that is to do, trust me, ive been bullied. but just dont let them know that its upsetting you. that's probably the only reason they're doing it!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    It looks to me as though there are more issues going on in your life than just wanting a vibrator to 'get right of your urges', esp concerning your confidence and self-esteem. Your football seems very important to you, and this should give you confidence in yourself as well, being good at something and getting paid for it. Maybe you should try and contact someone about this, because it really does seem to be having an impact on your life. And things can't not be bothering you that much if you are having thoughts (whether serious or not) about suicide.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hannah there's always going to be some people who love you and care about you and whose lives would be ruined if you committed suicide. What do you think your mum would do?

    And even forgetting the others who care about you, there's so much more you could get out of life, honestly, even if you don't think it. I think maybe that's your problem - that you don't feel like there's anything for you in life (ie because you don't have a job, don't have friends, are a virgin and other things you've mentioned), so you don't feel like you'd be missing out on anything. Am I right?

    But that's NOT true. Because as rachie004 succinctly put it, you can change everything in your life. Even if you feel like you don't mind not having a job or having friends, it can't be very fulfilling sitting around all day posting on computer forums. I'm sure that if you got yourself a job (not for the money, but to give you something positive to do), you'd have more in your life, something to be interested in, and also you'd meet more people. I know you say you're shy but if you hide away all the time that's never going to get better. If you start working with other people, of course it might be tough at first but it'll pay off and you will make friends. Who knows, you might meet the man of your dreams.

    The thing is, you have to be pro-active because it's nobody's responsibility but yours. You have so much life stretched out of you in front of you, and so much time to do something with it! You seem to need contact with other people in order to stay happy, so please, just get up and do something and interact with people. It'll remind you what's good about life.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    To be perfectly honest i dont even want a job, i get paid frolm the government anyway.

    This sort of attitue really annoys me. Too many people think like this and its the people who actually work and pay taxes that loose out. :mad:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Scorpion
    This sort of attitue really annoys me. Too many people think like this and its the people who actually work and pay taxes that loose out. :mad:
    Well, me too from a political point of view - but we weren't exactly being asked to comment on that and to be honest someone asking about suicide doesn't really need to be told she's a useless bum sponging off honest working people's money.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Ok fair enough but i think other peoples replys gave her good advice about all that. It was just a phrase that really stood out for me and it does annoy me a lot.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I hear you scorpian.. she may not have asked for the comment, but I think it needed to be said...!

    GIRL... you need to move out of your mothers house. You need to get off your arse and get a job. You can't earn respect by sitting at home sponging off the government, and with no respect comes no friends.

    Commiting suicide really, isn't an option. It's a pussy way of not dealing with a problem. And by choosing to end your life, what the hell do you think your mother would do... the woman that's been cooking and cleaning and probably picking up your dirty washing for you for 24 years. Give the woman a break!!!

    Go out, get some help. psychiatric help. THEN go and get a job and earn your way.
    Then, you'll earn respect from those around you.
    THEN you may actually have some friends.

    Doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that one out :rolleyes:

    Ilora x
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    A few points:

    First, you SHOULDN'T scrounge from the state!! Welfare isn't designed for people to be DEPENDENT on it!! Besides, JSA only lasts six months, so it isn't indefinite.

    Secondly, help comes to those who HELP THEMSELVES!!! If you have no job, why not do some voluntary work?! OK, you don't get paid, but it gets you out of the house!!

    Thirdly, if you want a partner, then I suggest trying to meet as many people as possible. Why not take up some evening classes or something??

    Suicide is cowardly in my mind! Also, your mother it seems cares for you a lot. It would probably destroy her if YOU DID kill yourself.

    If you don'tl like your situation in life, YOU POSSESS THE POWER TO CHANGE IT!!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Its just that im so shy i cant get a job people dont understand im just so shy im unable to get a job - - - i'm sure that once you start going out and socialising more that you'll get more confidence to get a job/make new friends. you can't sit doing naff all getting your money from the government all your life- there's no reward in that. you must feel very dependant. i'm 18, and i pay taxes from my wage from my part time job. you're 24...you don't. to me, that's not fair.

    That is why i dont go out drinking or anything too, i dont really mind not having friends its just other people call me about it - - -well if it's upsetting you that people are being nasty about your situation, do something about it.

    To be perfectly honest i dont even want a job, i get paid frolm the government anyway. - - - that's certainly not the right attitude to have. i could have a right go, i'm very anti-attitudes about things like that buti shalln't be mean. having a job will mean that you're earning your own way which should make you feel better. also you'll be getting out more and making new friends.

    Also i dont want a boyfriend anyway, he would just get in the way of my football - - - perhaps your football shouldn't come top priority at the moment?

    Just a vibrator would let me get rid of all my urges right? - - -true. but they don't provide you with comfort and love..things like that that we need.

    Also, you mention you're feeling suicidal; try and talk to someone - it helps.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Ilora-Danon
    I hear you scorpian.. she may not have asked for the comment, but I think it needed to be said...!

    GIRL... you need to move out of your mothers house. You need to get off your arse and get a job. You can't earn respect by sitting at home sponging off the government, and with no respect comes no friends.

    Commiting suicide really, isn't an option. It's a pussy way of not dealing with a problem. And by choosing to end your life, what the hell do you think your mother would do... the woman that's been cooking and cleaning and probably picking up your dirty washing for you for 24 years. Give the woman a break!!!

    Go out, get some help. psychiatric help. THEN go and get a job and earn your way.
    Then, you'll earn respect from those around you.
    THEN you may actually have some friends.

    Doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that one out :rolleyes:

    Ilora x

    You make it sound all so fuckin easy and it probably is for you and any tom dick and harry but if your severely depressed the illness will take over and you will give up on things until you decide to get help...

    Hannah i recommend you go down the doctors and tell the doctor your depressed / feel suicidal etc and they may prescribe you on some anti - depressants or you could ask for councilling if you wish? feel free to PM me if u like i been down the whole depression road and other stuff so i`ll get the jist of what your saying.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    oh yes and suicide isnt a pussys way out! do you realise what kind of state you have to be in mentally to do a thing like that!!

    its a permanent solution to a temporary problem but it still takes guts to tell yourself its all over then hang yourself or whatever.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Digital-Emotion: it's not as simple as going to the doctors and being prescribed anti-depressants. Sure, it's not as easy as 1-2-3 to get up and make drastic changes in your life, but you're making out that it's impossible to help yourself without anti-depressants. Also, Hannah didn't actually say she was depressed and it takes a doctor to diagnose clinical depression anyway. Maybe she should talk to someone, yes, but it seems anti-depressants are prescribed way too easily these days when they're not necessarily the right solution.

    And the point you're missing is that Hannah needs to do this herself; she has to be the one who decides to get up off her arse and make her life better; she's not completely helpless!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by perfect***day
    Digital-Emotion: it's not as simple as going to the doctors and being prescribed anti-depressants. Sure, it's not as easy as 1-2-3 to get up and make drastic changes in your life, but you're making out that it's impossible to help yourself without anti-depressants. Also, Hannah didn't actually say she was depressed and it takes a doctor to diagnose clinical depression anyway. Maybe she should talk to someone, yes, but it seems anti-depressants are prescribed way too easily these days when they're not necessarily the right solution.

    And the point you're missing is that Hannah needs to do this herself; she has to be the one who decides to get up off her arse and make her life better; she's not completely helpless!

    Believe me i do think its wrong just sponging on the state and whatnot but that isnt the issue, if shes feeling suicidal she may have a chemical inbalance in the brain and anti depressants may correct it and help her feel more positive.

    Where did i say its impossible to help yourself without anti depressants? it was a suggestion i did mention councilling too!

    Lets face it apart from her mother hannah seems alone in this world, She isnt just going to step out the house smiling and meet new friends because some people off a message board told her too, she needs to read all her options and think long and hard whats right for her.

    i`m suggesting see your GP then rebuild her life from there.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    So then she should be encouraged to help herself then??? ;) :cool:

    This COULD INCLUDE SEEKING psychiatric help and getting a job!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Hannah, you need to get yourself some help.

    There's loads of courses that you could get yourself on if you are on benefits. That would increase your employability and get you interacting with other people.

    It bothers me that you have posted this in Sex, when I think your deeper problem is your not being bothered about getting a job or leaving the house.

    Anyway, I think your first action should be to stop being so lazy and scrounging off the state. You're meant to be Seeking work, not lying about wasting other people's money.
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    ClaireBearClaireBear Deactivated Posts: 467 Listening Ear
    Hiya Hannah,
    Firstly *hugs* and lots of 'em.

    I realise things are really tough for you right now but there are lots of things you can do to help make things better. There are also lots of people out there who can help, no matter what the problem is.

    Firstly, if you're feeling really down, having a crisis or thinking about suicide you can contact Samaritans and they'll be able to help you through it. You can call them on 08457 909090 at any time or you can email them if you'd prefer.

    Secondly, as people have said, there are lots of ways to work on your shyness and boosting your self-esteem.

    But, most importantly, don't forget there ARE people out there who care about you and no matter what, if you don't feel like you can talk to your friends or family, there's always someone who can help.

    CB
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Digital-Emotion
    its a permanent solution to a temporary problem but it still takes guts to tell yourself its all over then hang yourself or whatever.

    it takes more guts to get yourself together, live through it, and put everything right. even if it takes years.

    and no, i'm not saying it's easy, but it can be done. there are enough people on here that are a testament to that. and in my own life i've seen it done so many times.

    imo, the bravest thing to do is not to face death, but to face life.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Anti Depressants are way too available. I know people that are nowhere near being depressed getting prescribed them week in week out by their doctors. And it only seems to make them worse.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i have had first-hand experience with Hannah-D, from now on known as *edited out - it is up to the individual to reveal a surname*.

    The suicide threat isnt serious, just seeking attention as usual. Anyway, if she did ring the samaritans, the woman who answered would end it within minutes.

    She has no job, she has never had a job and will never have a job. She is a sponge and your sympathy is not necessary. She actually brags about the fact that she gets free money whilst the rest of us work, does that sound like someone who needs your sympathy?

    She claims her lack of work is down to chronic shyness, which is absolute bull but everyone seems to buy into. She annoys me so much with her ridiculous stance that im thinking of doing something to stop her getting her 'allowance' every week.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i know Hannah, she's from the forest forum and she's nothing but a sponge. She may be shy but she's certainly not depressed.

    She said to us once on the forest forum that she's been signed off until2007 because of this "shyness" and then when people started getting on her back regarding this she said, and i quote, "It doesn't bother me, infact I find it quite funny." This was in reply to someone saying that we're the ones funding her.


    She "earns" £80 a week and has to pay no bills or rent and apparently has a few thousand in the bank. She was placed on the "New deal" thing you hear about and she quit after a week because she was shy. Yet she's happy to spend £300 of our hard earned money on a forest season ticket holder and sit with 20-30,000 people every other week.
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    ClaireBearClaireBear Deactivated Posts: 467 Listening Ear
    Carpet Monster and Forestfan,
    HannahD has used these forums in the way she's meant to. They are intended as a place where people can come and get support for whatever they're going through (or talk crapola in Anything Goes). They are NOT a place to slag people off who are feeling down. If you were at rock bottom and someone came on here and said those things about you how would you feel? In cases like these surely it's best to give someone the benefit of the doubt?

    Also, when you say someone's attention seeking, have you ever thought why that might be? Perhaps there are things going on that are causing them to act that way and it may be much more helpful to offer them some support than just have a go at them off.

    CB
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by ClaireBear
    Carpet Monster and Forestfan,
    HannahD has used these forums in the way she's meant to. They are intended as a place where people can come and get support for whatever they're going through (or talk crapola in Anything Goes). They are NOT a place to slag people off who are feeling down. If you were at rock bottom and someone came on here and said those things about you how would you feel? In cases like these surely it's best to give someone the benefit of the doubt?

    Also, when you say someone's attention seeking, have you ever thought why that might be? Perhaps there are things going on that are causing them to act that way and it may be much more helpful to offer them some support than just have a go at them off.

    CB

    i understand your viewpoint and id probably be the same in your position. The fact of the matter though is that she will never commit suicide and only wants attention because everyone else ignores her childish whinging.

    She is perfectly capable of getting a job but wont. She says thats whats getting her down. Shes intelligent enough to get a job at Safeway, lets face it, a fricking monkey could push a trolley about! She wont though, and this country is stupid enough to pay her to do so.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Forestfan
    i understand your viewpoint and id probably be the same in your position. The fact of the matter though is that she will never commit suicide and only wants attention because everyone else ignores her childish whinging.

    She is perfectly capable of getting a job but wont. She says thats whats getting her down. Shes intelligent enough to get a job at Safeway, lets face it, a fricking monkey could push a trolley about! She wont though, and this country is stupid enough to pay her to do so.
    Ok, what's your explanation as to why she won't? Pure laziness? I agree (as I've said already) that it's up to her to make changes in her life if she's going to be come happier, but at the same time it's not always that easy for everyone. And CB had a point (well of course she does, she's a mod, but you know what I mean) - Hannah came here for advice because she was feeling down, so that's what she should be getting.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Sir Cum
    Anti Depressants are way too available. I know people that are nowhere near being depressed getting prescribed them week in week out by their doctors. And it only seems to make them worse.

    I agree, I went to the doctors about 8 months ago and explained about how I was feeling and he prescribed me some tablets. I never took them. Wanted to feel better on my own. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    it all comes down to personal preferance if you feel you need medication at least they are there for the taking but on the other hand if you want to sort things out yourself go right ahead.

    I dont see why people are moaning about other people taking medication if people supposedly "dont look that depressed" no one knows what goes on in other peoples minds, people dont just pop them things for the sake of it.

    I know i sound pro anti depressant i sound like they cure all the worlds ills but i dont think like that at all. I was on them for over a year and i weaned myself off without GPs advice they did help me but they stopped working for me basically and i just got fed up of having to keep taking them having my emotions switched off and havin occasional mood swings blah blah.....

    i know if i ever go back into oblivion they are there for me and they will help me sort things through.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Digital-Emotion
    it all comes down to personal preferance if you feel you need medication
    Am I the only one in thinking that sounds really wrong? :eek2:

    I mean, surely it's not about whether you feel you need medication, but whether your doctor diagnoses you with a problem? And if they have diagnosed you with the problem, doesn't that conclude that you *do* need medication? Where's the opinion in all this?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by perfect***day
    Am I the only one in thinking that sounds really wrong? :eek2:

    I mean, surely it's not about whether you feel you need medication, but whether your doctor diagnoses you with a problem? And if they have diagnosed you with the problem, doesn't that conclude that you *do* need medication? Where's the opinion in all this?


    I had my depressive moments years before i went to my doctor so i dont think i needed to be told it doesnt take a genius to know if you got it or not, you just know.

    what im saying is I know what i went through at the time, when i was really low i did feel like i needed them i explained everything i was feeling to my doctor and i was prescribed ciprimil then later on was moved onto venlafaxine.... was on all that for year then stopped taking medication because i "felt" i didnt need them in my life anymore they had pulled me out of the slump so to speak.

    i dont see whats wrong with doing that. Who knows without me doing all that i might not even be here now so i have no regrets.
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