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uni is rubbish

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
edited March 27 in Work & Study
probly should go in students, but i want replys :(

anyone else starting to have doubts about uni? i'm not sure if it is for me and am thinking about other prospects.

and i'm fallin behind only one term in :(
sigh....
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    don;t worry, everyone has doubts in first year. i wanted to jack my course in because i was a bit intimidated by the course and the some of the students in my tutorials. it was only in my second year i realised i'm just as good as them and it's important that i carry on.

    a lot of people don't like to talk to others about their worries and want to apear calm and confident when really they're not. just enjoy it, if you're first year all you need to worry about is passing and having lots of fun fun fun :D
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: uni is rubbish
    Originally posted by molo
    probly should go in students, but i want replys :(

    anyone else starting to have doubts about uni? i'm not sure if it is for me and am thinking about other prospects.

    and i'm fallin behind only one term in :(
    sigh....
    gerra a job ont bins.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    what exactly is it that you're worried about? can you be more specific?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Is it the workload that is the problem?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    well im glad i didnt go to uni, seemed crap and a waste of time with no guarantee of a job (except if your doing medicine, law, dentistry or vetinary etc) and a really big waste of money, even here you still have to pay a lot, too much pressure and a hard way of living for a degree
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you aint enjoying it, it's best to get out as soon as.

    Think about it properly, like.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I've been having doubts since I started in September, and though of other things I could do (though that was an effort in itself im best at what I am doing) I just didnt realise I was if you get me?

    And it's difficult isn't it? The whole way of learning is different to what ive been used to and thats not helped - and the freedom too doesn't help for getting work done when you really should do especially when the pub etc is sooo much more tempting.

    Stick at it though molo at least for this year if its possible. Some people in my tutor group left after a few weeks and their really regretting it now - so think long and hard before you do decide anything. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Char_Baby
    (except if your doing medicine, law, dentistry or vetinary etc)

    I'm sure there are loads more than that.

    It's never occured to me that I might not go to university.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Char_Baby
    well im glad i didnt go to uni, seemed crap and a waste of time with no guarantee of a job (except if your doing medicine, law, dentistry or vetinary etc) and a really big waste of money, even here you still have to pay a lot, too much pressure and a hard way of living for a degree

    And you'll regret it when you realise you can only get so far in life. Degree-less, you're excluded from the top jobs - you might have the abilities and the experience, but employers want qualifications, too.

    Even medicine, law, et al aren't guaranteed jobs. Hell, especially law. It's not a waste of money in the slightest, it's an investment in your future that very, very few people ever regret. In fact, I've not met anyone who has regretted uni. It's a social experience as much as an educational one - the first year is totally pressureless, and even Final years (except at the very top unis) isn't exactly going to kill you.

    And finally, where's the hard way of living? I mean, going out three nights a week, being around your friends 24/7, freedom to do what the hell you want...so long as you hand in your work, no one cares. Seems pretty easy to me.

    Still, it's not for everyone, and the biggest return on your invesment only comes if you go to a top uni with a good reputation.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Molo - stick with it, at leat for the first year, and then make your decision. What is it specifically that you're not enjoying? The course? Not making friends? The financial pressures? I have a lot of doubts about what I'm doing here, but ultimately I know that it's only three years - three very quick years, it seems - you'll be a lot better off for having done it.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i gave up on my fashion design degree after a year, and now i really really regret it.

    yeah, i'm still going to end up with a degree in something, but considering i'm still after going into the fashion world, that degree would have helped me enormously, especially in finding contacts.


    it's not something to take lightly.

    having said that, you can be very successful without a degree, my brother is. and there's nothing stopping you going back in a year or two or even ten.


    so i'd say think really, really carefully about it, but if you decide you really don't like it, it's not the end of the world.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Turtle
    And you'll regret it when you realise you can only get so far in life. Degree-less, you're excluded from the top jobs - you might have the abilities and the experience, but employers want qualifications, too.

    Even medicine, law, et al aren't guaranteed jobs. Hell, especially law. It's not a waste of money in the slightest, it's an investment in your future that very, very few people ever regret. In fact, I've not met anyone who has regretted uni. It's a social experience as much as an educational one - the first year is totally pressureless, and even Final years (except at the very top unis) isn't exactly going to kill you.

    And finally, where's the hard way of living? I mean, going out three nights a week, being around your friends 24/7, freedom to do what the hell you want...so long as you hand in your work, no one cares. Seems pretty easy to me.
    yes very true. i want to stay at uni forever!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Re: uni is rubbish
    Originally posted by molo
    probly should go in students, but i want replys :(

    anyone else starting to have doubts about uni? i'm not sure if it is for me and am thinking about other prospects.

    and i'm fallin behind only one term in :(
    sigh....

    oh god...i so agree! Uni is rubbish. Ive been having doubts since 1st year, and now im away to start term 2 of 3rd year :( not cool. Ive already transferred once, which was a good move, but now i just want it over with. Only a year and a half to go :eek2:

    I dont think there is point in me quitting now, but i would say if youre not far on in your degree/course then get out, have a rethink, and do something else. Or even go back to uni next year or whenever. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    i never said i would never go to uni, im probably gonna go later in life when i have a better idea of what i want to do, i dont think im able to make the desicion of what im gonna be doing for the rest of my life at 17, i want a bit of experience and a life before i settle with a mediocre life
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Char_Baby
    i never said i would never go to uni, im probably gonna go later in life when i have a better idea of what i want to do, i dont think im able to make the desicion of what im gonna be doing for the rest of my life at 17, i want a bit of experience and a life before i settle with a mediocre life

    ooh...now that IS smart :thumb: I wish i had taken a year or so out....not necessarily to cruise the world, but just to decide what i wanted to do. Properly. Not do something my guidence teacher thought would be a good idea :no:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    there was so much pressure at my school (because it was crap) that you HAD to go to uni, it was drilled into you, if you left and did an apprenticeship in joinery or mechanics everyone would be like 'omg hes gonna be so poor' what they didnt realise was that theres no guarantee of a job just because you have a degree, i know loads of people in high management positions earning over 40k a year and left after they took a levels, my dad didnt even get A levels and is earning a huge wage with a company car and loads of benefits. when i was at school i never even considered that i wouldnt go to uni, after i left i saw there was more to life than *school, uni, job, die* and i really dont like people who go to uni lording it over because they think there more intelligent than me, i could go to uni this year if i wanted with the grades i have, but i dont want to, i want to have a life first and get life experience before settling

    thank you please :blush:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Char_Baby
    i never said i would never go to uni, im probably gonna go later in life when i have a better idea of what i want to do, i dont think im able to make the desicion of what im gonna be doing for the rest of my life at 17, i want a bit of experience and a life before i settle with a mediocre life

    When's "later in life"? Taking a gap year or even two is okay, but if you leave it too long you'll be so much older than everyone else. It's a social experience as much as anything, and if you're so much older than everyone else, it kinda takes the fun out of it.

    It's not a decision on the rest of your life. It's a decision on the next three years. If you wanna become something that requires a specific degree, chances are you'll already know about it. Architects and doctors have the longest courses, but it's also an ambition they grow up with. There's nothing wrong with doing a degree just for the sake of having a degree - it's living a bit of life and getting experience, just as much as getting a job or travelling is.

    But I hope the ambition to achieve and do well does rear its head at some point. I've no doubt you're intelligent, but you've got an odd take on uni.
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    White NoiseWhite Noise Posts: 624 Incredible Poster
    Originally posted by Char_Baby
    what they didnt realise was that theres no guarantee of a job just because you have a degree

    nope, doesn't guarantee you a job. but with a degree you stand a much much higher chance of getting one.

    i know loads of people in high management positions earning over 40k a year and left after they took a levels, my dad didnt even get A levels and is earning a huge wage with a company car and loads of benefits.

    exactly, not going to uni doesn't mean your not gonna be a high earner. but having a degree makes it much much easier

    i saw there was more to life than *school, uni, job, die*

    when you finish uni, it doesn't mean you have to get a job straight away, just like leaving school/college doesn't mean you have to get a job straight away. when i finish uni i fully intend to spend a good year or two traveling and having a laugh then settling down.

    plus what turle said :yes:
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    im hating living on a floor with a load of people i dont like, not getting anymore than 4 hours of sleep a night and not being able to go home

    If u could of taken my friends with me i'd be loving it
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    How much of an effort have you really put into talkin to the people around you? If you wish you'd taken all your friends with you, it sounds like you havent made many new ones at uni.
    You cant carry your mates everywhere you go and its easier to make friends at uni than other places so get your arse out there.

    Why are you not sleeping? Are they making loads of noise? Are you not tired?

    Bopz
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I think uni is only for certain types of people. I personally could never see meself going. In fact i had problems staying in college, never mind uni :p

    Its a big thing to throw away though, talk to as many people as poss then get some advice. You might well end up quitting, but dont take the decision likely.

    Oh and i thought graduates were having a harder time than ever finding jobs now?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If graduates are finding it tought to find a jobv, then it will be harder for those who left school after GCSE's etc.

    Got my reults today, got tottaly screwed, got to decide wat to do.
    Drop out, or carry on for a few years doing more work...

    Bopz
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Bopperz
    How much of an effort have you really put into talkin to the people around you? If you wish you'd taken all your friends with you, it sounds like you havent made many new ones at uni.
    You cant carry your mates everywhere you go and its easier to make friends at uni than other places so get your arse out there.

    Why are you not sleeping? Are they making loads of noise? Are you not tired?

    Bopz

    Yeh ive made a few good friends but the rest of the people on my floor are people i dont like being near. Im the quiet sort and they are really noisy and are up till the early hours in the room next door to me so i have no chance of sleeping much most nights.

    So its not really a matter of not having got out there and made friends its just i want to swap the ones i dont like for my friends at home :(

    And im also homesick. Miss all my pets!

    Get my results next week too aargh.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Blah_x2
    Yeh ive made a few good friends but the rest of the people on my floor are people i dont like being near. Im the quiet sort and they are really noisy and are up till the early hours in the room next door to me so i have no chance of sleeping much most nights.

    So its not really a matter of not having got out there and made friends its just i want to swap the ones i dont like for my friends at home :(

    And im also homesick. Miss all my pets!

    Get my results next week too aargh.

    god...halls are a nightmare. The room i had was right next to a squeeky main door, so there was always someone going through. Also, my neighbour would go out at night leaving his music on full blast. Rarr...fair play (i guess) he was in the room, but he fucking wasnt :mad: Anyways...i see what you are saying, but its good that you have made some good friends. Stick with it until you can move out in summer...im sure it will get better then :) Less noise, and you can choose who you want to live with...much better all round
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I'm pretty stressed at uni at the moment because the workload is immense, but it's enjoyable at least. I mean, it's a course I chose to do because I really enjoy it; the main reason I wanted to go to uni in the first place was for the studying.

    That makes me out to sound really sad, but hey. Still, there are lots of perks of being at uni, the course seems to be a relatively small factor in some people's decisions! For starters it does give you a head start when applying for jobs once you graduate - no guaranteed employment, but on the whole a graduate is more desirable than a school or college leaver.

    Also, uni is a character forming experience. Your horizons are broadened, you meet all kinds of people and make some pretty good friends - and the social life at uni is fantastic! Wherever you are (with the possible exception of St Andrew's...) there's loads going on so you can never be bored. Also you get really long summer holidays to get work experience or just to arse around.


    So basically, I think uni's a great idea! You really need to have the motivation of enjoying your course and having a goal at the end of it though, or you are going to just think it's pointless.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    If you leave, what are you gonna do for the next couple of years?

    That's pretty much the only reason I'm doing the whole uni thing. I was never going to go and now look at me...

    ...I'm still here :D

    And I'm loving it - great fun. I've kinda screwed this year very slightly by not doing any coursework but it's still great fun!

    Looking forward to getting a place with a couple of freinds next year too :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I agree i am hating uni at the moment, I haven't made any real friends just friendly towards people on my floor. Im hoping next year when classes are smaller i will be able to make friends with people on my course but im just riding the rest of this year out, thre isnt long to go now.
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I went to Kingston Uni to study Accounting and Finance in September, but I dropped out because it was difficult to get there, and I didn't want to live in halls because I didn't want all the living costs.

    About the social life, I would have to say that it isn't so good if you're commuting, so I didn't have as much motivation to stick with the course as many people.

    I would very willingly do a degree for a free (though I'm not sure now whether I really want to be an accountant). It's just that fucking about with debt puts me off big time. Also, my dad felt he had to pay for the tuition fees and he looked so miserable when I asked him to fill in the direct debit form, I'd feel guilty if I did badly at it. That's the thing, you can't even guarantee if you're going to get a good degree; I heard of one guy who had done a degree for three years then failed; he did a retake then still failed. So four years wasted!

    Must admit the search for work that has followed has not got far, but I have only been looking for four months. I notice mainly that employers seem to be obsessed with experience. Not sure how much difference a degree would make unless it's quite a specialist one?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by will haycock
    I'd feel guilty if I did badly at it. That's the thing, you can't even guarantee if you're going to get a good degree; I heard of one guy who had done a degree for three years then failed; he did a retake then still failed. So four years wasted!

    Yeh, but sometimes it depends how much work you put in. I'm not saying he didn't work hard; but....

    :chin:
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