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Please Help the Talnesssssss yet again again again

Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
Stuck with math, and it went so well until now :(

I get told that the line with the equation 4y=4x + a is the tangent to the equation squareroot of x. How do I find a?

Anyone???

P.S. From now I will drag this thread up everytime I need help. I will try not to annoy you all so much though. But I can't help it. Have posponed this for too long :(

EDIT: It's all about differentating and such piss and paperdom.

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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Isn't "a" where the tangent touches the curve?

    I haven't done maths since I took Add Maths AO Level 2 years ago. So I may be wrong. Hope someone can tell you!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    b is where the line touches the y-curve. a is the incline of x.

    But in this case I wouldn't know :(
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    I could help you if i had a diagram but i cant picture it!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    HELP NEEDED ASAP!
    Need to make a graph on excel which goes a*x^b (which is a kinf of double exponential), and I have no clue of how to.

    Anybody knows?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Havent got a clue tbh Tal-Anna. But, I do like your av. :)
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Thank yew Lisa-Marieness <3
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by Jacqueline the Ripper
    Thank yew Lisa-Marieness <3

    Tis your eye too, oui?
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    here goes.....

    you have 4y=4x+a which is the same as y=x+(a/4), and root x which is x^0.5

    this is a standard straight line of form y=mx+c, m being the gradient which in this case is 1, and c being a constant (the y-axis intercept)

    where the two curves intercept tangentially their gradients must be the same

    You know the gradient of 4y=4x+a is 1, hence the gradient of y=x^0.5 must be 1 at that point

    By differentiating: dy/dx x^0.5 = 0.5x^-0.5

    now you have to set this equal to 1, so 0.5x^-0.5 = 1

    from this you can calculate that x=0.25

    From y=x^0.5 you can calculate that when x=0.25 y=0.5. You now have an x and a y co-ordinate for the point where the curves meet. By plugging these back into the eqn y=x+(a/4),

    0.5=0.25+(a/4)

    and from this you can calculate the value of 'a' as being 1

    hope that helps!
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    he he I tried doing that, but I got stuck. damnations.
    It's been one hell of a weekend...

    Bopz

    (Can't wait to start the modelling lecture at 9 am tommorow! :eek: )
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    Former MemberFormer Member Posts: 1,876,323 The Mix Honorary Guru
    Originally posted by *Lisa*
    Tis your eye too, oui?

    Oui oui, mon cherie.
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