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Wenger makes "diver" accusation
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Damn near fell off my chair laughing at this: Story
Apparently, the difference between yesterday and the Portsmouth game is that Pires was "touched".
I'd say Wenger is too
Apparently, the difference between yesterday and the Portsmouth game is that Pires was "touched".
I'd say Wenger is too
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Does anyone take anything he says seriously anymore?
But both you Godscop and MoK say Ronaldo doesn't dive and if I'm right MoK you say it isn't a contact sport so if all this is true then what Wenger said is completely correct so me thinks theres a bit of contradiction going
I haven't seen the incident that Wenger is refering to here, but the fact that he has the neck to say things like this is hilarious.
Ferguson has faults but he doesn't have this 'I didn't see the incident' line and he has the ability to lose with a bit of grace, publicly at least. Wenger is a total wanker, his players are little versions of him.
I think Gordan Strachan said it all on Saturday when he was asked about a sending off. He said "I'm doing an Arsene Wenger here. I did not see it. But I saw the beautiful goals."
I am happy to concede that last week neither of the challanges on Ronaldo were penaltys, however there was contact.
Its very hard to judge if there is contact between two players and one goes down. The only person who really knows is the player himself.
I am a fully paid up member of the Fergie/Red is Right brigade and I walk around with red tinted specs on most of the time so you may have a point about double standards, I don't think Im that bad though. I know some of our players have dived in the past but I think people are very quick to judge when it involves a United player.
When Wenger first started to get vision problems I thought he was taking the piss, but as times gone on and hes used it more and more I am starting to think he believes this stuff.
Since when? Did I say that Ronaldo doesn;t make a meal of tackles - no. Did I say that the contact may have been enough to bring him down anyway - yes. There is a difference.
I think that both Dunn and the Greek bolton player may have something to say here too. Both made a meal of the tackle and were booked for it, yet both were actually fouled.
Rugby is a contact sport, boxing is a contact sport.
The objective of football is to take the ball without touching the opposing player first. That is why I said that it isn't a contact sport. If you have to go through the opponent to get to the ball then you have comitted a foul, according to the laws of the game.
I refer you back to the Bolton-Birmingham game for the same examples I used above. Two playes booked, both fouled because of contact.
Oh, and that makes no difference if it is Keane making the tackle of Vieira.
Indeed there was. Pires kicked at the Portsmouth player, and then fell over. So not only did he "dive" but he also comiitted a foul in the process.
But then most successful managers pick up habits and develop bias obvious to everyone but themselves.
Ferguson is famous for kicking a fuss when the referee blows the final whistle if United happens to be losing- often despite having had an extremely generous injury time already. I remember once the ref finally blew the whistle in the 97th minute, after the growing desperation of the other team and the amazement of everyone watching. Incredibly, Ferguson protested that the injury time given had been too short!
According to the Alex Ferguson Book of Mathematics, to find the precise injury time (in minutes) to be given in a game, the following formula must be applied:
if x = full time
y = Man U losing
z = Man U drawing
a = Man U winning
then
x + y = >8
x + z = 7
x + a = 0
Football is. I don't know but from what you're writing you obviously don't play the game at all. Actually, according to the laws of the game you are allowed to shoulder barge each other if you are both within playing distance of the ball. I ask you - what's that if it isn't contact?
Don't be so picky, Man of Kent explained what he meant.
Football is a contact sport, but you are not allowed as much contact as in rugby.
Unless of course you think in football you can grab an opposition player and throw him to the ground!
Not since I fucked up my knee in a tackle, no I don't play.
I referee instead
Depends on what you mean by a "barge", if neither player is knocked off his feet and neither player stumbles as a result of the challenge then no foul has been comitted.