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Why the Catholic Church should be eradicated from the face of the Earth
BillieTheBot
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The Vatican: condoms 'don't stop AIDS'
On top of the millions who have been murdered over the centuries, on top of the tens of millions oppressed and tortured, on top of their corruption, Nazi collaboration, spread of hatred and homophobia and countless other atrocities, the Catholic Church happily helps spread one of the most serious and horrifying diseases in the history of mankind.
How low can you get?
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On top of the millions who have been murdered over the centuries, on top of the tens of millions oppressed and tortured, on top of their corruption, Nazi collaboration, spread of hatred and homophobia and countless other atrocities, the Catholic Church happily helps spread one of the most serious and horrifying diseases in the history of mankind.
How low can you get?
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No sex should be taking place outside of marriage, therefore AIDS would only be passed on through other methods and thus a condom is irrelevant. As you should also not be a drug user then the chances of infection are also reduced.
Other than that I can only point out that faith has never really sat well with scientific "fact"... :rolleyes:
Morons.
That the Catholic Church uses its massive influence in many of those countries to discourage the use of condoms could even qualify as manslaughter. It's repulsive beyond belief.
Disgraceful!
If you shagged around as a youth but later repent to Jesus and become a god-fearing member of the Catholic Church, then surely you should still be wearing condoms, despite being a 'good' person now?
Do Catholic scriptures not deal with moral complexities?
Nope because the passing of the disease would be an act of God. His way of punishing someone who had sinned...
Not to my knowledge.
But like I said in the situation above and considering the Christian ideal of redemption and atonement surely that doesn't make sense?
Ah, but the individual cannot control the virus, thus it is God's judgement whether it gets passed on or not.
Remember, not everyone who has unprotected sex with an infected individual ends up with the disease. It just increases the risk.
BTW I don't subscribe to the Catholic Church's perspective on this (or just about anything TBH) but it helps to understand a different mindset sometimes.
If Tony Blair did this it would cause utter outrage, but how many people think of the Pope as an utter bastard? Not many
Why do we still apply different standards to religious instituions than to civil organisations just because religious organisations are utterly out of touch with the modern world?
Good question. So much for separation of Church and State...
years ago i read a book that was written around 1900, by a catholic priest. i cant remember the name of it but will find out if i can
it is a study of part of the book of revelation. the part dealing with the destruction of 'babylon the great'. it describes the fine garments, the expensive woods, gold silver, purple robes etc. the murder of innocents and the wars it has been involved in. it explains that god sees it blood guilt as piled right up to heaven.
it goes on to explain ...in the bible itself ...that this whore ...sits on the seven hills of rome ....
the only conclusion this priest could come to was that babylon the great was the catholic church. if you ever get the chance to read a plain english bible i think you will agree with his conclusion.
so ...if he's right aladin ...you would find that your desire to see the destruction of the catholic church as being in full agreement with the god of the bible or at least with it's maybe prophetic writers.
keep sasying i must get a bible ...there is stuff in there that is so anti religous that religous people somehow manage to avert their eyes from those passages ...to continue to delude themselves.
What about the cult of Malcombe X for example (an anti-white islam sect) or that jewish prayer where they thank god that they were not born a woman? What about the caste system?
I don't understand why everybody gives Christianity such a hard time when any fundamentalist religion holds some values that we may see as wrong After all, these books are written by somebody hundreds/thousands of years ago and are bound to be dated and biased.
it's support of hitler and the gassing of jews? loads of religions are bad ...maybe all of them but this one ...have a read of the book of revelation as i stated before ...who else sits in power, over many sees and is based on the seven hills of rome?
But at the same time, I've never seen any posts about here saying how Hindu fundamentalism or muslim fundamentalism is wrong... why does everybody pick on the Christians?
if we could ask the guy who started it all ...mr christ ...or at least read some of his writtings ...do you think he would see the catholic church as resembling in the slightest the christian faith?
what would he make of the pope? mr christian rode into town on a smelly donkey ...the pope is carried on a bleeding throne! people have to bow to him and kiss his ring! did you know when ever a head of state, be it king or president ...meets the pope, they have to kiss his slippers! while mr christian was humble enough to wash the dirty feet of a common man ...wheres the christian bit then?
I agree with what you're saying in that I don't believe a lot of fundamentalists follow the original teachings. mary magdeline was a prostitute for example... yet many Christians have a problem with sex before marriage... still, jesus was cool with her.
As for the pope, he's amazingly rich, but doesn't the Bible say something like...
"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of god" ?
The Catholic church has billions invested in arms yet the Bible says "thou shalt not kill" and there are so many books left out of it...
here is what my seach on google said
Christian Identity
... The FBI calls it the nation's most dangerous hate group. And it's growing in Missouri
Christian Identity beliefs The movement "is not Christian," says minister ...
Description: Collection of archived media coverage of the group.
and the matching url for this
Christian. the biggest hate group ever
Now this is a tiuchy subject for me as i am a christian and i believe in some but not all there ways....
spot on and absolutly right, the catholic church is about as far removed from christianity as taught in the Bible as paganism is.
read the article and yes: morons with a massive lack of understanding and compassion (that they are meant to show)
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So yes Al, the system should be eradicated, but perhaps not the people.
BTW the Bible, in my opinion, doesn't really teach that God punishes people for sinning eg. psalm 130 If you, O LORD , kept a record of sins,
O Lord, who could stand?
But with you there is forgiveness.
"get out of her my people .......
because the topic was started in response to a major new story and the catholic church is one of the biggest religions in the world, simple really............
I agree, can you imagine if a government in one of the affected countries made this governmental policy? There would be worldwide outrage and condemnation of the ignorance which would lead to such a policy. Because it is the holy mother church it is seen as acceptable policy, no matter what harm it will cause and how much work it will undo from organisations like the WHO.
The Pope (and his soon-to-be-in-charge successor) should be declared 'persona non-grata' in countries everywhere until they make a public rebuttal of their earlier comments (pretty much what they've been doing to scientists and thinkers everywhere who dared to suggest the earth was not the centre of the Universe, under the threat of death) and banned from travelling to those countries if they do not comply. An abandonment of their homophobic, hatred-filled position towards homosexuality would have to change too.
And we could start converting old Catholic churches into nightclubs. They make superb venues!
Actually I think it was only the gospel of Paul that had homophobic teaching... so really, if Christians are educated enough then they'd understand that this is just one man's opinion... but aaaaah, ignorance is bliss eh?
But Christianity takes a lot from Paganism, not the other way round. For example the placing of the Christian callender... in fact when early Christianity came to the british Isles they seemed to get on alright, although the Christians did try and convert the celts. Early celtic Christianity had some beautiful concepts, such as the Anam Cara. However, the Catholic church... I don't agree with what they do even if I hold the belief that we should be free to have our own beliefs.
One thing that a lot of people don't know is that there are five other gospels 'convieniently' left out of the Bible (going back there wasn't a 'Bible', only a collection of texts written at that time). These were the Gospel of Thomas, the Egyptians, of Philip, of Mary and of Truth.
Btw, christianity has a lot of customs origining in paganism. Initially so the pagans would adapt to the new religion faster and easier.
For example the christmas tree. The fewest people know why people celebrate christmas with a tree, but it is a pagan tradition to mark teh fact that the days are now getting longer and thats oon nature will start blooming again. Has nothing to do with christianity whatsoever.
is the same event.
Anyway, many people have had beef with the catholic church over the years. That is why the whole protestant movement started. Oliver Cromwell (a famous puritan) hated catholics. He (and others like him) believed the church should be devoid of all decoration. He wasn't too keen on the pope, with all his riches etc. Can you blame him?
But the simple fact that if people listened to the word of God and DIDNT SHAG AROUND, then AIDS would soon disappear from the Earth.
Saying that condoms dont work is dangerous in the extreme, but the policy behind the gobshite is one that shouldnt be mocked so easily. If people wre monogamous and stayed away from drugs then, in quite a short space of times, AIDS would disappear. The reason why AIDS is so prevalent in Africa is because they are deeply, deeply promiscuous. Simple as.
The hate is a bastardisation of parts of the Bible though. And its not good catholic beliefs, in the same way that just because some social workers like interfering with children, and some others cover for them, that does not make all social workers evil.
All through both Testaments it is stated that sex outside of marriage is a sin, and that the SOLE PURPOSE of marriage is to procreate. Hence why a) homosexuals cannot have sex and b) contraception is against God's will. The Catholic Church's default position is not anti-homosexuality, but anti-sex outside of marriage. And as at marriage you promise to have children, and stay monogamous, de facto that means that homosexuals cannot have sexual relations.