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"Super" skinny models banned in some countries. PTW
Siena
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Heyy!
i read a lot about food and health around food and models and eating disorder ect on the internet and found out that 6 countries have banned "super" skinny models. I dont want to send the links since i dont want to send things that contain BMI numbers ect & triggering things. But basically if under a certain BMI cant be a model
i disagree with that since people can be naturally under the healthy BMI, it does not mean they have anorexia. I knew someone whos naturally thin, not "healthy" BMI and hated it, seeing no models like this could make these people feel just as bad. But they was healthy cause ate right just didnt get as much fat stored. I personally think anyone can be a model and putting restrictions on it, is saying they cant be a model, when everyone can be. Like the same for overweight people, they can be slightly overweiht but still healthy if eat right, and not within the "healthy range" yet can still be models so why cant underweight be too? (While not ignoring massive health risks of both ends of weights if was unhealthy eating) And there is no upper BMI limit when that would be considered unhealthy too. So it makes no sense.
the only problem i would have if the Models undwieght - if they was on the front cover of a magazine. Cause in my opinion when see a magazine and someone modeling on front - in my head i think "this is telling me i should look like this" thats maybe just how my brain works. But yeah thats just my personal opinion and can be models just my view on that part. And how i feel they can all be models but not to be glamorised in front cover imo. And if the magainze said nothing about how every size is okay but you may be unhealthy if this size or just be naturally thin and how it would be unhealthy if not this size but is your aim and talk about the health risks. Same if was overweight.
The reason that underweight people cant be models is so it doesnt cause anorexia. I can understand wanting to aviod the pressure modelling can have. But surely should be looking for the signs of anorexia and ED rather than someones weight. Since can be any weight. The only reason people felt pressured in first place was cause people would be asked to be a low BMI but if no pressure & someone is naturally like that then whats wrong with that. Some people could really want to be models but get refused cause not fat enough, they end up eating a lot and could causes unhealthy relationship with food and themselves when they cant be a model.
It is a myth that anorexia is caused by run away models or fat phobia. models can be a massive infulence, anorexia is a very deep MH problem.
And even if soemone did have anorexia and was in recovery -not feeling the pressure to be thin then why cant they be a model either? Just like maybe someone with binge eating disorder could be a model. We have to be in our bodies every second so whether youre unwell or well then you should feel comfortable with it.
and maybe wondering why im so interested in these sort of debates and its mostly because i do have eating disorder and im just interested in weight, size and the media and views about it. And while i have had disorted thoughts of feeling fat but sometimes knowing i am thin- just because have anorexia doesnt mean i always want that body, even tho lot of times i do but a lot is to do with the way food makes me feel and control. And sometimes i feel body shamed when i see certain things about being underweight or a certain BMI. Plus. Just personally feel that when people are trying to be body positive they just unintentionally shame underweight people. And because the media affects me mostly just models on front cover.
Just wondering other peoples views on underweight models being banned in some countries ?
i read a lot about food and health around food and models and eating disorder ect on the internet and found out that 6 countries have banned "super" skinny models. I dont want to send the links since i dont want to send things that contain BMI numbers ect & triggering things. But basically if under a certain BMI cant be a model
i disagree with that since people can be naturally under the healthy BMI, it does not mean they have anorexia. I knew someone whos naturally thin, not "healthy" BMI and hated it, seeing no models like this could make these people feel just as bad. But they was healthy cause ate right just didnt get as much fat stored. I personally think anyone can be a model and putting restrictions on it, is saying they cant be a model, when everyone can be. Like the same for overweight people, they can be slightly overweiht but still healthy if eat right, and not within the "healthy range" yet can still be models so why cant underweight be too? (While not ignoring massive health risks of both ends of weights if was unhealthy eating) And there is no upper BMI limit when that would be considered unhealthy too. So it makes no sense.
the only problem i would have if the Models undwieght - if they was on the front cover of a magazine. Cause in my opinion when see a magazine and someone modeling on front - in my head i think "this is telling me i should look like this" thats maybe just how my brain works. But yeah thats just my personal opinion and can be models just my view on that part. And how i feel they can all be models but not to be glamorised in front cover imo. And if the magainze said nothing about how every size is okay but you may be unhealthy if this size or just be naturally thin and how it would be unhealthy if not this size but is your aim and talk about the health risks. Same if was overweight.
The reason that underweight people cant be models is so it doesnt cause anorexia. I can understand wanting to aviod the pressure modelling can have. But surely should be looking for the signs of anorexia and ED rather than someones weight. Since can be any weight. The only reason people felt pressured in first place was cause people would be asked to be a low BMI but if no pressure & someone is naturally like that then whats wrong with that. Some people could really want to be models but get refused cause not fat enough, they end up eating a lot and could causes unhealthy relationship with food and themselves when they cant be a model.
It is a myth that anorexia is caused by run away models or fat phobia. models can be a massive infulence, anorexia is a very deep MH problem.
And even if soemone did have anorexia and was in recovery -not feeling the pressure to be thin then why cant they be a model either? Just like maybe someone with binge eating disorder could be a model. We have to be in our bodies every second so whether youre unwell or well then you should feel comfortable with it.
and maybe wondering why im so interested in these sort of debates and its mostly because i do have eating disorder and im just interested in weight, size and the media and views about it. And while i have had disorted thoughts of feeling fat but sometimes knowing i am thin- just because have anorexia doesnt mean i always want that body, even tho lot of times i do but a lot is to do with the way food makes me feel and control. And sometimes i feel body shamed when i see certain things about being underweight or a certain BMI. Plus. Just personally feel that when people are trying to be body positive they just unintentionally shame underweight people. And because the media affects me mostly just models on front cover.
Just wondering other peoples views on underweight models being banned in some countries ?
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It's extremely unhealthy.
eating disorders arent caused by runaway models. Theyre complex mental health disorders and people will visualise it whether there are pictures of it or not
My comment is based on experience with working with 100s of young people who come from different backgrounds and have done multiple workshops on body image.
Currently working with a group of boys on bigorexia.
And don't drag the overweight shit back into this. That thread was closed.
The media should respesent everyone....
espically if theyre healthy just naturally a bodu type ...so i thought anyways.
i was reading about a person who really wants to be a model so is eating so unhealthy and so much just to be one yet not getting there and thats ruining her life
i have anorexia and i have many times save skinny models on my phone to aspire to be that skinny. But if they wasnt there, im going to imagine it either way
People who are underweight can feel body shamed just as much as those who are overweight
And thank you for opinion @Ai@Aidan !
complex and while super skinny models doesnt help - they are not the only thing that feed someones eating disorder. Their own insecurities & many deep factors. So Theyd still imagine it and still crave the feelings they get with food/lack of it.
While naturally or just underweight people will not see their body type be represented in the media for them which can be damaging when they can hate themselves for it and just want to see someone else be comfortable too
Though id say making sure everyone feel comfortable in their body would be what i see as priority. We cant protect everything or assume it will have that affect when lots of factors but we can do our best to make people feel comfortable and not to be told "too skinny". But thats just my opinion.
But no where does it say that the reason is about the people who view the images since its a massive myth anorexia is caused by skinny models.
And yeah Exactly some people go looking and searching for skinny models because they have a heath problem and insecurities to start with not because it caused it.
Thank you for opinion! Quite interested in peoples views about these things
Its very bad to tell someone "youre too fat to be a model". But totally okay to tell someone theyre too thin. No sense. Both should be bad to say
My point is we should embrasse every body type. Insecurities from the media come from when its shamed or one body type is glamorised. Telling someone their natural body is too skinny for people to view is very rude.
The banning of any natural body type as models will ultimately lead to unrealistic expectations because it creates an artificial representation of common body-types.
Some people are large, some people are small, that is a natural expected variation, so the modelling industry should be encouraged to reflect that variation.
Its the variation we need. The only reason we have this view of underweight models will cause/ massive contribute to someones anorexia is because it use to be the only models around and it was glamourised to see the only body. The varation will let everyone know its okay no matter what body size you are! & no pressure to look at certain way.
its like literally when people try to be body confidence by saying "curves are beautiful" hinting that no one wants to look lik those skinny models who dont have much curves. But then its not body confidence just shaming more people. And ive literally been told no one would ever wanna sleep with me because im underweight, though i do have eating disorder it doesnt mean i wanna always look like that. And the friend i knew who naturally skinny felt so self concious from being so bullied for it. And was told "real men like curves, dogs like bones"and she just actuallly hated being in her own body for being "too skinny" and banning those models are doing the exact same thing & telling people theyre too skinny. just upsetting really. We need to see people comfortable in every body type
I stand by what I say and that's based on my experiences I've had with 100s of young people.
But yeah apprecate your opinion/expereince.
Just think Having all different models wont glamorise skinny models. Will jsut say you can be any shape & no pressure. And will help people feel comfortable in all body types
So i did call it an experience like you asked, aswell as an opinion